Anca Luca wrote: > Thomas Mortagne wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 15:18, Anca Luca<[email protected]> wrote: >>> Vincent Massol wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Let's vote on how to handle the title behavior for the 2.0 final >>>> release so that we're all on the same page. >>>> >>>> After talking to several people here's what I propose: >>>> >>>> 1) We remove the top level H1 only if the title compat flag is on and >>>> the title H1 is the same as the top level H1 >>>> 2) The compat flag is off by default in our distributions >>> Couldn't this be fixed by migration so that we make sure all documents in a >>> 2.0 >>> instance are "clean": they have a title, same as the heading 1 if title >>> misses >>> or just the title if title = heading 1? If I understand correctly this would >>> only be needed by upgraders, so why not build them correct documents >>> instead of >>> providing a flag to switch? >>> >>> >>>> 3) We modify the Toucan and Albatross skins to display the title (same >>>> as Colibri) >>> -0 >>> >>> I don't like this idea of modifying the old skins: we're building a new, >>> better >>> skin, right? it's one of the improvements of the new skin over old skins, if >>> people want to still use toucan and benefit from this, they should hack it >>> themselves at their own risks (if any). It seems cleaner, even if not very >>> user-friendly. >>> >>>> 4) We modify the Default XE XAR to have titles for all its pages (and >>>> remove the header 1 in page content)
>>> This should also mean changing all =headings= to ==headings==, since On the contrary, this means promoting level 2 headings to level 1 since the level one has become the title. But this should happen only to documents that have just one H1 that plays the role of a title. >> This is wrong, = does not mean page title, it mean level one section >> header. The fact that the graphical title of the page is a <h1> or >> something else is a skin implementation details it should not impact >> the content that way. > > Then it should be implemented with a h2 (so that there is semantic room for > the > doc title), or we drop the idea of a document title that encompasses the > whole > content (because there is no way we can build a coherent document from a > semantic pov, wiki & html). IMO the title of a document is _above_ the level one headings which are like the chapters of a book. Thanks, Marius > > Thanks, > Anca > >>> semantically speaking, now that the page title is displayed with h1, >>> everything >>> under should be a h2, in a "normal" semantic. >>> I don't see any use case when, in the document, there is a heading as >>> important >>> as the page title, but I agree we should allow it (if a user really really >>> wants >>> it). >>> >>> Actually, that's how I now see the structure of a document (how it should be >>> built to be "correct"): >>> title: |Page_title________________ >>> >>> == first section >>> lorem ipsum >>> == second section >>> lorem ipsum >>> >>> Now, this would require adjusting section editing and default toc. >>> >>> In a doc structure based on h1 sections, we should provide section editing >>> for >>> the document title (so that the first section of the document can be edited >>> through its associated H1) -- would this actually make sense for the user? >>> >>>> This should cover both user upgrades and new behavior. Note that user >>>> custom skin will still work in most cases since they're not normally >>>> touching the contentview.vm file. >>>> >>>> Here's my +1 >>> otherwise 0, >>> it's hard to have an opinion, nothing seems right... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Anca >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> devs mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
