Hi Caty On 01/18/2010 06:51 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for all your feedback. > > ----A---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > * there should be a way to completely hide the annotations: > > the note icons& the annotations bar. > > * also, completely hide should include the blue bar or filtering panel or >> anything is there >> * there should be a link from the top of the document to the annotations >> tab, as >> for the other tabs (comments, attachments, etc), or any other way of >> accessing >> it from the annotations context >> > > Please take a look at: > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal/integrated.png
oh yeah! However, does it make sense next to watch list? > > - Annotations is integrated as a toggle (just like Watch). Clicking on it > reveals the annotations options: > -- filtering (show / hide all annotations + annotator highlighting ), > -- icon display (show / hide annotation icons + icon's legend), > -- add help (+/- Add link + how to add annotation help). > > - This way you can view the page in the normal manner, without any > enhancements. indeed it fixes the problem, but I think 2 switches for the user to display the annotations & annotation highlights (or only one, or only the other) would be a bit of an overkill (otherwise put, I think the 4 modes of annotation display would confuse in more cases then it would help). > > ---B----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Otherwise put, highlight& icon should go together. >> > > I disagree here: Highlight and Icon offers different types of information. > They should be represented separately. > > - Highlight is used to show the limits of an annotation (start, end); > - Highlight is used to visually represent by color the author of the > annotation (or any other metadata); > - Highlight always present in the text can disturb the user from scanning > the text, because colors can be very distracting. > > - Icon is used to show the presence of an annotation at a given location; > - Icon is used to visually represent the type of the annotation (valid, > modified, dangling); > - Icon is less disturbing and can be easily skipped when scanning text; agreed (with your disagreement) in the case when you always display icons. In the case when you can hide annotations completely, they should go together, for the same overkill reason. Thanks, Anca > > ---C----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > What is the event that triggers the annotation details/actions overlay: > > <highlight><body of annotation></highlight><icon/> > > Normal display:<body of the annotation></icon> > > Hover: > -- body of the annotation: nothing happens. User can select the text, > copy paste it and react with it in the normal mode. > -- icon: show the highlight - this way you can see the limits of the > annotation. The action is obvious since you're hovering a foreign object of > the text. > > Click: > -- body of the annotation: browser native behavior (selects a word, a > line); > -- icon: display annotation details/actions overlay. > > When we have the highlight present (with or without the icon) the > details/actions overlay needs to appear on click. > > ---D----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > * in the annotations tab, the order of the info should be: selected text and >> annotation metadata (comment) rather than the other way around, because >> usually >> the metadata refers the text and it's more natural for the user to know the >> annotated text when it reads the metadata. However that whole tab should be >> customizable for extra metadata so that's not that important >> > > When I divided the annotations in two parts (contextual actions + tab) the > rationale was like this: > > - contextual actions were for browsing: text is king, annotations are > helpful for the text; > - tab: annotations are important, this way you can scan them easily without > the need to click for each one. > > That's why I put the importance on the annotation and not on the annotated > text. > > ---Thibaut--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thank you so much for your feedback and for your SVG (I've reused it for the > last mockup). The HTML+CSS for the first mockup were at > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Annotations > > - your display options are not very well positioned because the example is a > poem, but in real life, the text will use all the area, and the right > aligned position will not look so smooth as it looks now, being pushed up > and outside the text. > > - your ideas and scenario about the similarities between annotations and > comment is interesting and pertinent. Anca should tell her opinion about > this from an implementation point of view. > > - if the annotations were comments, then we don't need a separation of > terms. The icon should be comment instead of annotation and they should > suppose to be localized comments, not something else. And also we didn't > need two add actions in the tab. > > - I disagree with the explicit display of replies in the annotation > details/actions overlay. This representation could get very big and block > all the text behind. Also if we would display it like this, then the Tab > would be redundant. > > - I agree with the icon from the tab that takes you to the location in the > content. > > - The problem with this approach is that we need to annotate not just text, > but add tags and other metadata to the content. This is an argument to have > another tab for annotations. > > - when you show linked replies for an annotation, the new comment you add is > an annotation for the original annotation? or for the comment? :) > > Thank you again for your comments. Was great to see another approach for the > annotations. > > Caty > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
