On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 13:23, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
> IMO: > > There is an Add button in the Annotation Options Area. > > - I go to the content > - I SELECT the text > - I press: > - OR the Add button > - OR Ctrl + defined key > also after I hit the shortcut, the selected text is being highlighted in yellow (or any other color that the annotation has) > - A popup at the selected text location appears to let me add an > annotation. > > This way I can select the text without any problem in my usual copy/paste > rutine. And when I want to add an annotation I simply click a button or have > a key shortcut. > > I don't understand why it is necessarily to have the Ctrl activated when I > do my selection or any other versions that appear boxes when I select text. > > 3) is ok too > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 18:48, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 01/29/2010 05:39 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >> > Hi Sergiu >> > >> > On 01/29/2010 06:28 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: >> >> On 01/29/2010 03:53 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >> >>> Short story: >> >>> Can't use modifier keys since there is no decent cross browser >> alternative. >> >>> >> >>> New "default" way: >> >>> 1/ current solution presented at >> >>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal#HAddbut >> >>> with more accessible "add" button (options?) >> >>> 2/ when annotations are shown simple select triggers the display of >> annotation >> >>> dialog >> >>> 3/ simple select displays a little add icon to be clicked and display >> the >> >>> annotation dialog (1/ with button next to selection) >> >>> 4/ checkbox to enable 2/ >> >>> >> >>> WDYT? >> >>> >> >>> I think I like 2 or 4. >> >> >> >> I prefer 3. Without a mouse it's easy to break a selection, so here one >> >> saved click sometimes means an extra close dialog. >> > >> > I don't know if I understand exactly, but for me any would go, so I >> registered >> > your opinion. >> >> It's not a strong opinion, and definitely not a -1 for all the others, >> just my preference. >> >> >> >> >> But I wonder how will it be implemented, simple onmousedown/onmouseup >> >> handlers?What happens if I select text using the keyboard? >> > >> > I can look into selection handlers, but if it takes too long, I will do >> mouseup >> > mousedown since frankly, without being disrespectful to users needs, I >> doubt >> > there would be anyone else selecting text with the keyboard. >> >> As long as it will be easy to change the trigger later, feel free to >> take the easiest approach at the moment. >> >> >> What happens >> >> if I select text with the mouse then adjust the selection with the >> keyboard? >> > >> > That would be simple, I could just use whatever selection in the >> document when >> > user clicks the "add annotation" button (the form submit that is). >> >> Then this is good enough for my needs. >> >> > Thanks, >> > Anca >> > >> >> >> >>> See below for long version. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Anca >> >>> >> >>> On 01/29/2010 04:36 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >> >>>> Hi devs, >> >>>> >> >>>> On 01/16/2010 09:14 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >> >>>> [snip] >> >>>>> * adding an annotation could be done by pushing the "add button" >> then going in >> >>>>> the content& selecting text and when the mouse is up, the >> create window >> >>>>> appears. In other words, pushing the add button would have the same >> behaviour as >> >>>>> holding the CTRL key down. Speaking of which, it seems that CTRL + >> select is >> >>>>> reserved in firefox for selecting a table or smth, and I also think >> it's >> >>>>> reserved to selecting full words in IEs. Could you investigate on >> that and try >> >>>>> to figure out what other modifier could do the job? (if a modifier >> is required) >> >>>> >> >>>> I had a look at this and I have the following results: >> >>>> * CTRL + select text: >> >>>> - CTRL + mouse down is a shortcut for 'select full paragraph' in IE >> browsers >> >>>> which means it will select the entire paragraph and will be hard to >> get the >> >>>> selection working normally on the text you want to add annotation on >> (it's >> >>>> possible to get to a normal select mode but with some pain). I >> haven't found a >> >>>> way to prevent that behaviour >> >>>> - CTRL + mouse down is a shortcut for selecting entire table cells in >> Firefox: >> >>>> cannot select only the text in a cell, by any means. I haven't found >> a way to >> >>>> prevent that behaviour >> >>>> * ALT + select text: >> >>>> - seems to be fine on all browsers, doesn't interfere with any other >> reserved >> >>>> keys (tested on firefox, chrome, IE) under windows, some mac BUT >> >>>> - on Ubuntu, the ALT+drag combination is a system function for moving >> windows >> >>>> around on the screen. There is no way I can 'override' that from the >> browser. >> >>>> * SHIFT + select text: >> >>>> - It's weird on ff and chrome since it's an accessibility shortcut >> for selecting >> >>>> text (for those who cannot drag). Namely if you hold shift while >> mouse down, it >> >>>> will select all the content from the last click you made.) >> >>>> >> >>>> Because of all these, I think it would be hard to rely on some >> modifier key, so >> >>>> we need a more accessible alternative. >> >>>> >> >>>> By also looking at some other annotations in other applications, I >> see the >> >>>> following options: >> >>>> 1/ the alternative described at: >> >>>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal#HAdd(but >> >>>> which has dissappeared from the last proposal at >> >>>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal/integrated.png >> >>>> ), except that it should be more accessible since it would now be the >> default >> >>>> way of adding annotations. (making it visible on scroll for example) >> >>>> 2/ while annotations are 'activated' (all or partially displayed on >> the >> >>>> document) simply selecting (no modifier) will trigger the annotation >> dialog >> >>>> 3/ simply selecting always displays a little icon which can be >> clicked to open >> >>>> the create dialog (for example, the way the accelerators icon is >> added to >> >>>> selected text on IE8). It would less annoy regular selection, and >> also enable >> >>>> annotations on it, but it's an extraclick to add an annotation >> >>>> 4/ provide a checkbox "annotations mode", which when activated >> (regardless of >> >>>> whether other annotations are displayed or not), will trigger >> annotation add >> >>>> dialog on simple select. This solution is similar to 1/ >> >>>> >> >>>> WDYT? How would you see it? >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks a lot, >> >>>> Anca >> >> >> -- >> Sergiu Dumitriu >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
