On 01/29/2010 03:53 PM, Anca Luca wrote: > Short story: > Can't use modifier keys since there is no decent cross browser alternative. > > New "default" way: > 1/ current solution presented at > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal#HAdd > but > with more accessible "add" button (options?) > 2/ when annotations are shown simple select triggers the display of annotation > dialog > 3/ simple select displays a little add icon to be clicked and display the > annotation dialog (1/ with button next to selection) > 4/ checkbox to enable 2/ > > WDYT? > > I think I like 2 or 4.
I prefer 3. Without a mouse it's easy to break a selection, so here one saved click sometimes means an extra close dialog. But I wonder how will it be implemented, simple onmousedown/onmouseup handlers? What happens if I select text using the keyboard? What happens if I select text with the mouse then adjust the selection with the keyboard? > See below for long version. > > Thanks, > Anca > > On 01/29/2010 04:36 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >> Hi devs, >> >> On 01/16/2010 09:14 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >> [snip] >>> * adding an annotation could be done by pushing the "add button" then going >>> in >>> the content& selecting text and when the mouse is up, the create window >>> appears. In other words, pushing the add button would have the same >>> behaviour as >>> holding the CTRL key down. Speaking of which, it seems that CTRL + select is >>> reserved in firefox for selecting a table or smth, and I also think it's >>> reserved to selecting full words in IEs. Could you investigate on that and >>> try >>> to figure out what other modifier could do the job? (if a modifier is >>> required) >> >> I had a look at this and I have the following results: >> * CTRL + select text: >> - CTRL + mouse down is a shortcut for 'select full paragraph' in IE browsers >> which means it will select the entire paragraph and will be hard to get the >> selection working normally on the text you want to add annotation on (it's >> possible to get to a normal select mode but with some pain). I haven't found >> a >> way to prevent that behaviour >> - CTRL + mouse down is a shortcut for selecting entire table cells in >> Firefox: >> cannot select only the text in a cell, by any means. I haven't found a way to >> prevent that behaviour >> * ALT + select text: >> - seems to be fine on all browsers, doesn't interfere with any other reserved >> keys (tested on firefox, chrome, IE) under windows, some mac BUT >> - on Ubuntu, the ALT+drag combination is a system function for moving windows >> around on the screen. There is no way I can 'override' that from the browser. >> * SHIFT + select text: >> - It's weird on ff and chrome since it's an accessibility shortcut for >> selecting >> text (for those who cannot drag). Namely if you hold shift while mouse down, >> it >> will select all the content from the last click you made.) >> >> Because of all these, I think it would be hard to rely on some modifier key, >> so >> we need a more accessible alternative. >> >> By also looking at some other annotations in other applications, I see the >> following options: >> 1/ the alternative described at: >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal#HAdd >> (but >> which has dissappeared from the last proposal at >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal/integrated.png >> ), except that it should be more accessible since it would now be the default >> way of adding annotations. (making it visible on scroll for example) >> 2/ while annotations are 'activated' (all or partially displayed on the >> document) simply selecting (no modifier) will trigger the annotation dialog >> 3/ simply selecting always displays a little icon which can be clicked to >> open >> the create dialog (for example, the way the accelerators icon is added to >> selected text on IE8). It would less annoy regular selection, and also enable >> annotations on it, but it's an extraclick to add an annotation >> 4/ provide a checkbox "annotations mode", which when activated (regardless of >> whether other annotations are displayed or not), will trigger annotation add >> dialog on simple select. This solution is similar to 1/ >> >> WDYT? How would you see it? >> >> Thanks a lot, >> Anca -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
