Hi, +1, generally.
I also feel a bit frustrated by the seeming redundancy of having both Article and Encyclopedia on one side and Meeting Report and Simple page onthe other, since from a helicopter view they are 95% identical. However, I believe that the whole point of templates is to have a very specialized usecase that is answered and that the user can immediately use. If every time someone wants a simple page, but selects meeting notes and removes a lot of formatting, then they will just end up creating a simple page template. These are just a couple of usages that we consider to be very common and which we decide to offer some help by default (in the default flavor). Others could be added (even from Caty`s extended list), since we`re missing tables, macros and many other useful XWiki features that are otherwise hard to discover. Thanks, Eduard On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Alexandru Cotiuga < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > + 1 for all > The difference between Article and Encyclopedia could be increased by > adding other specific elements on each one's layout. > > Thanks, > Alex > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > In case we don't like a particular Template, then the best strategy is to > > have individual votes for them. > > > > @Anca, from your feedback is hard to know if you prefer Article over > > Encyclopedia. > > > > Since we need to release 8.2 final at the end of the week I would like to > > advance with this topic: either by committing all the proposed templates > or > > just a subset, but I need more opinions. > > > > Status: > > 1. Article (Article page): +1 Vincent, +1 Caty > > 2. Encyclopedia (Encyclopedia page): +1 Vincent, +1 Caty > > 3. Meeting Report (Agenda and notes): 1+ Vincent, +1 Caty, +1 Anca > > 4. Simple Page (With table of content): +1 Vincent, +1 Caty, +1 Anca > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Caty, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > By default there are not many page templates an user could see. > > > > > > In order for users to understand the power and purpose of XWiki, > it > > > > would > > > > > > be helpful to add more content templates by default. > > > > > > > > > > > > Content Templates are templates that don't belong to a particular > > > > > > application, but provides an initial content structure. The > > templates > > > > > will > > > > > > be suggested in the creation step. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are some templates we could add by default: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/TemplatesDefault#HProposal > > > > > > 1. Article > > > > > > 2. Encyclopedia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think these two are the same one, they should be collapsed into > > only > > > > one > > > > > template. I don't really understand the differences between these > > two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The differences are in layout. > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion this is not enough to have both of them. For me, the goal > > of > > > the templates by default is to help discover the template feature and > its > > > benefits to users, and the way to do that would be to show interesting > > > usecases of the template feature. Having two templates for the same > > usecase > > > but with different layout is not aligned with this goal, but would be > > more > > > aligned with the goal of showing that we can do different fancy > layouts. > > In > > > addition, this logic would allow to have multiple templates for the > other > > > usecases as well, with different layout, which would not be a good idea > > > (e.g. another meeting report, with a different layout) because would > > bloat > > > the list... > > > > > > Anyone else? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Anca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should be called Meeting Report (or meeting notes), so that the > > > > difference > > > > > with the meeting extension is more obvious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will use "Meeting Report" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Simple Page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should have the word Table of Contents in the name, so that its > > purpose > > > > is > > > > > obvious from the start (otherwise "simple page" and the default > > "blank > > > > > page" are not very easy to differentiate ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The difference is viewed in the Description, see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/TemplatesDefault/WebHome/descriptions.png > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Caty > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another template could be added, "Index page", with a simple > > livetable > > > > > listing all the children (and descendants) pages of the current > page. > > > > It's > > > > > handy when creating the root page of a subtree on the wiki (would > > have > > > > the > > > > > same purpose as "Dashboard", to be a scripted homepage from where > the > > > > > subtree of that page can be accessed). > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Anca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can test them on > > > > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/TemplatesDefault/ > > > (use > > > > > the > > > > > > Create button) > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote if you agree these templates should be added by > default > > > or > > > > > > otherwise let me know your feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Caty > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > devs mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > devs mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
