> On 22 Nov 2016, at 14:18, Guillaume Delhumeau <[email protected]> > wrote: > > 2016-11-22 13:16 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > >> >>> On 22 Nov 2016, at 12:13, Guillaume Delhumeau < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everybody. >>> >>> Today I would like to speak about an issue that annoys me for years. >>> >>> We are working on a tool whose one of the objectives is to stop >> scattering >>> information in multiple places. It's even the main argument explained in >>> the video integrated on the home page of XWiki: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTWrZ7OfzI. >>> >>> But on the other hand, we, developers of XWiki, do the opposite in >>> practice. We discuss on mailing lists that are archived on Markmail, we >>> report issues on Jira and we do investigations on design.xwiki.org, and >> I >>> don't even count Github. >> >> Honestly I don’t see the relationship between the tool we develop and how >> it’s developed. These are completely separate things! >> > > We develop a tool that centralize information and we don't use it to > centralize our own informations, except documentation. > > >> >> Using a car is pretty easy but creating one is hard. That’s normal and >> expected :) >> > > Yes but if you also create a tool to help you creating a car and you don't > use it yourself,
XWiki is not a tool to help develop software. It can be used for some parts of the software development process (the documentation part, the requirements part, etc). But for example it won’t help you store your sources files and it won’t help you develop your Java Code (your IDE will though). > you're giving a bad image to your product. I’d never promote XWiki as a tool to replace any of the tools I’ve mentioned in my previous reply. If you do, you’re doing a disservice to your users. XWiki is not: - a forum - a CI - a SCM - a chat tool - a mailing list - etc. Each of these tools have a purpose and it’s certainly not that of XWiki. For example a forum is a place to discuss. A wiki is not a place to discuss (it can be as an edge case but it’s certainly not a best of breed tool for that). A wiki is first and foremost a place where you can aggregate knowledge. So yes we should use XWiki to aggregate knowledge And this is exactly what we do on xwiki.org and design.xwiki.org. [snip] Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

