2016-11-22 15:25 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > > > On 22 Nov 2016, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > 2016-11-22 14:39 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > > > >> > >>> On 22 Nov 2016, at 14:18, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> 2016-11-22 13:16 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > >>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 22 Nov 2016, at 12:13, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi everybody. > >>>>> > >>>>> Today I would like to speak about an issue that annoys me for years. > >>>>> > >>>>> We are working on a tool whose one of the objectives is to stop > >>>> scattering > >>>>> information in multiple places. It's even the main argument explained > >> in > >>>>> the video integrated on the home page of XWiki: > >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTWrZ7OfzI. > >>>>> > >>>>> But on the other hand, we, developers of XWiki, do the opposite in > >>>>> practice. We discuss on mailing lists that are archived on Markmail, > we > >>>>> report issues on Jira and we do investigations on design.xwiki.org, > >> and > >>>> I > >>>>> don't even count Github. > >>>> > >>>> Honestly I don’t see the relationship between the tool we develop and > >> how > >>>> it’s developed. These are completely separate things! > >>>> > >>> > >>> We develop a tool that centralize information and we don't use it to > >>> centralize our own informations, except documentation. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Using a car is pretty easy but creating one is hard. That’s normal and > >>>> expected :) > >>>> > >>> > >>> Yes but if you also create a tool to help you creating a car and you > >> don't > >>> use it yourself, > >> > >> XWiki is not a tool to help develop software. It can be used for some > >> parts of the software development process (the documentation part, the > >> requirements part, etc). But for example it won’t help you store your > >> sources files and it won’t help you develop your Java Code (your IDE > will > >> though). > >> > > > > I completely agree and there is no discord on this. > > > > But I still believe that if we promote our tool as a better alternative > for > > emails and we keep sending brainstorm, votes, news, we're not giving a > > consistent signal. > > I’m not sure I agree that a wiki (xwiki or any wiki) should replace email. > > I see a wiki as a way to extract pure knowledge from their temporary > places (irc, mailing lists, etc) into a place where it can be aggregated > and augmented, representing the sum of knowledge on a topic. >
This is the upcoming knowledge-base flavor. But I have always considered XWiki to be more than that. We have put a lot of effort to create: - Application Within Minutes (it makes me thing about Microsoft Access) - File Manager Application (there is Cloud solutions for that) - XPoll Application - Task Manager Application - Ideas Application and so on... Anyway I've read (partially) the other threads about this subject and I understand the counter-arguments now. I don't fully agree but I can understand. Thanks, Guillaume _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
