2016-11-22 14:39 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > > > On 22 Nov 2016, at 14:18, Guillaume Delhumeau < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > 2016-11-22 13:16 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > > > >> > >>> On 22 Nov 2016, at 12:13, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi everybody. > >>> > >>> Today I would like to speak about an issue that annoys me for years. > >>> > >>> We are working on a tool whose one of the objectives is to stop > >> scattering > >>> information in multiple places. It's even the main argument explained > in > >>> the video integrated on the home page of XWiki: > >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTWrZ7OfzI. > >>> > >>> But on the other hand, we, developers of XWiki, do the opposite in > >>> practice. We discuss on mailing lists that are archived on Markmail, we > >>> report issues on Jira and we do investigations on design.xwiki.org, > and > >> I > >>> don't even count Github. > >> > >> Honestly I don’t see the relationship between the tool we develop and > how > >> it’s developed. These are completely separate things! > >> > > > > We develop a tool that centralize information and we don't use it to > > centralize our own informations, except documentation. > > > > > >> > >> Using a car is pretty easy but creating one is hard. That’s normal and > >> expected :) > >> > > > > Yes but if you also create a tool to help you creating a car and you > don't > > use it yourself, > > XWiki is not a tool to help develop software. It can be used for some > parts of the software development process (the documentation part, the > requirements part, etc). But for example it won’t help you store your > sources files and it won’t help you develop your Java Code (your IDE will > though). >
I completely agree and there is no discord on this. But I still believe that if we promote our tool as a better alternative for emails and we keep sending brainstorm, votes, news, we're not giving a consistent signal. Just look at the video: > * Share your ideas & knowledge, promote collective intelligence Your answer is ML is the best breed for that... > > > you're giving a bad image to your product. > > I’d never promote XWiki as a tool to replace any of the tools I’ve > mentioned in my previous reply. If you do, you’re doing a disservice to > your users. > > XWiki is not: > - a forum > - a CI > - a SCM > - a chat tool > - a mailing list > - etc. > > Each of these tools have a purpose and it’s certainly not that of XWiki. > > For example a forum is a place to discuss. A wiki is not a place to > discuss (it can be as an edge case but it’s certainly not a best of breed > tool for that). A wiki is first and foremost a place where you can > aggregate knowledge. > > So yes we should use XWiki to aggregate knowledge And this is exactly what > we do on xwiki.org and design.xwiki.org. > > [snip] > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
