On 15 August 2014 05:14, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce < [email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/7/2014 1:05 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > >> >> I've never encountered anybody try and use MSC from the command line in >> about 15 years professionally. >> > > I've tried to. When using Marmalade. Marmalade's mandatory build system is > very closed-off and VS-integrated, so when I needed to include other stuff > into my workflow (forget exactly why/what), I had to invoke from a script. > And it worked *very* poorly. > > The fact that so few people use VS from the cmd line could partly be > *because* it works so poorly: > > Ex 1: There's a lot of apple fans who have rationalized all sorts of > limitations as "good", or at least acceptable, long as the apple didn't > support them. Then the moment apple would offer it, suddenly it'd be hailed > as the greatest thing since sliced bread. > > Ex 2: Linux users rarely use GUI file managers. I love GUI file managers, > but when I'm on Linux, I find even I do a lot more of my file management on > the cmdline than I normally would. I do that *because* linux file managers > tend to be pretty bad (esp the Nautilus-based ones IMO). So I'm not > surprised other Linux users aren't really into GUI file managers either. > > We could be seeing a similar thing here. Something is shunned as "bad" > *because* that particular world's version of it is very poorly done or > otherwise unavailable. > > > That's what I mean about this culture; it's >> the opposite of linux, and it outright rejects practises that are >> linux-like. >> >> > While I don't doubt that's true of a lot of people in the industry, I have > to question how much stubbornly clinging to ignorance can really count as a > "culture". I'm tempted to claim that isn't culture at all, it's just > pandemic pigheaded ignorance. > It is what it is... I'm just making an argument for the importance of the seamlessness of the download -> "hello world" experience. There's a large number of developers who find this to be a sign of quality, and they will pre-judge accordingly. You won't win these people over by telling them the reality of their condition ;)
