On Sunday, 29 March 2015 at 02:47:42 UTC, lobo wrote:
On Saturday, 28 March 2015 at 14:12:19 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev
wrote:
Do you think your time is more valuable than that of D
contributors' or something?
This attitude is crap and is becoming more frequent on the
forums.
The D development team is not interested in listening to their
user base unless the user base is willing to contribute back to
D language development with PRs.
Not sure how this is related to the discussion at hand.
Contributors are more likely to have enough experience with the
language to make better suggestions, though.
I think that from an outside perspective, it's hard to lose sight
that D has no well-defined "devteam". Aside Walter and Andrei,
there are no cabals or inner circles. D contributors are all D
users who also like to spend some time to improve D.
Good luck with that because most end-users will not bother even
trying to file a bug report, let alone distill it down with
some tool in the compiler download. They'll just move on in
another language that doesn't require effort fighting
compiler/language bugs.
Missing the point.
Here is what Ketmar could have done:
1. Create a regression issue with the unreduced test case. This
is OK. I occasionally check for unreduced regressions, though
usually someone beats me to it.
2. Ask for help with the reduction (e.g. digitalmars.D.learn). He
said he did, but I don't see where! Posting deep in some thread
doesn't count, very few people read the entire forum.
3. Contact me directly for assistance in using DustMite. I'd be
happy to help.
I don't think these are unreasonable expectations. If you fail or
refuse to at least do the above, and then complain how everything
and everyone is horrible, I have no sympathy for you.