In the case of semi-automatic operation, there is generally no 
operator present at the station generating the QRM. Even when an 
operator is present, the automatic station control software 
immediately responds to an incoming request whether the frequency is 
locally clear or not.

If you and I live in the same town, and if whenever I'm in QSO on 
14250 you make a habit of calling CQ on that same frequency, then 
you would have a difficult time defending yourself against a charge 
of malicious interference. You might claim that the frequency 
sounded clear to you, but this would not be credible.

An automatic station that listens for incoming requests and 
responds, whether or not the frequency is locally clear, would be 
similarly vulnerable. Its operator might claim that he or she was 
present at the time and heard nothing, but a pattern of interfering 
with local ongoing QSOs would undermine that claim.

When the ARRL approved semi-automatic operation back in 1995, it 
said (in PR Docket No. 94-59) "We do recognize the concerns of those 
who oppose the proposal on the basis of potential interference, and 
in response to these concerns we are limiting when automatic control 
can be employed. First, the control operator of the station that is 
connected to the automatically controlled station must prevent the 
automatically controlled station from causing interference. Second, 
we are designating subbands to which transmissions between two 
automatically controlled stations are confined. These subbands are a 
small portion of the spectrum otherwise available for digital
emission types. We also are confident in the ability of the amateur 
service community to respond, as it has in the past, to the 
challenge of minimizing interference with novel technical and 
operational approaches to the use of shared frequency bands."

Thus the FCC expects us to solve this problem, not simply cope with 
its resulting QRM. There is in fact a practical technical solution: 
the inclusion of busy frequency detectors in automatic stations; 
these would prevent the automatic station from responding to an 
incoming request when doing so would QRM an ongoing QSO. 
Unfortunately, those who develop automatic station software have not 
seen fit to include busy frequency detectors. "Advancing the state 
of the radio art", so often heralded by those supporting the ARRL 
proposal, evidently does not include improving one's software to 
avoid QRMing one's fellow amateurs.

    73,

        Dave, AA6YQ


--- In [email protected], "Andrew O'Brien" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >will be intolerable unless
> > >operators of semi-automatic stations start losing their 
licenses if
> > >their stations habitually QRM in-progress QSOs while responding 
to
> > >remote requests.
> >
> 
> but Dave, how is this kind of QRM routinely dealt with by the FCC?
> I'm talking about any time a station starts a QSO on an already
> occupied frequency, regardless of mode. Does not the offending 
station
> simply have to say "I listened and heard no QSO".  How would FCC
> license-taking-away offcials be able to prove that the offending
> operator  either did not listen, or listened and heard someone but
> ignored them?   I guess if not actually in control of the station 
that
> might be proved.
> 
> I guess I'm at the point of suggesting that we just cope with the 
QRM.
>






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