SCS gives away the modems at cost or for free? News to me. Can I use a soundcard program to detect it and monitor it, as I should be able to do as a licensed amateur? No, it is not open to the public. Will West Mountain Radio, MFJ, or some other company start selling a more reasonably priced modem? No. Will elecraft come out with a pactor III modem kit, at an even more reasonable price? No. Can I build my own, using publicly available knowledge provided by SCS? No. My point was that if the pactor 3 modems were built such that they would not ever transmit on a busy frequency, no matter the detected mode already in use on the frequency (18 2+ Khz channels on 20 meters alone, according to bandplans.com) they would be deemed practically useless, and SCS's sales would hurt. That is why they do not bother to add this feature. I never said the people that invented winlink to provide yacht-mail or whatever they were thinking at the time were charging for any services. My main bitch comes down to malicious QRM , which I have been subject to on numerous occasions. If you want to use amateur radio to bypass the internet or commercial satellite services, which should, by the way, be within the financial reach of someone with a yacht and an SCS modem, then be my guest. I was simply stating why I thought the feature would never get added. Nothing will change, and I really don't care anymore. If other people in the past accused the inventors of Winlink of charging for a profit, I don't know anything about that. Why don't you go ask them why they said it? I didn't. I'm as sick of this nonsense as I am of Pactor automatically starting up all over 20 meters without listening first.
On 6/21/06, KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Craig, > > Where exactly is the money exchanging hands? I have heard this type of > comment a number of times and found the exact opposite from what you are > saying. > > The Winlink 2000 system is completely free to use and the four hams or > so who developed, own, and control this system have donated their time > and equipment for years and years all the way back to the original > Aplink system and later the Winlink, Netlink, and eventually the > primarily internet based Winlink 2000 system. > > There are other systems that may be using the software, such as > SailMail, that are somewhat commercial but even that looks to be more of > a cooperative. > > How about being forthright with the facts? > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > Craig Cook wrote: > > >If QRM-Tor III modems did listen for a busy channel, much less traffic > would > >get through. Thurston Howell won't be able to send free email from his > >luxury yacht, possibly hurting sales of modems. Don't count on it ever > >happening. PactorIII/WinLink is a commercial for profit enterprise that > >happens to use amateur frequencies under current rules, unfortunately. I > >wish those rule loopholes to be closed someday, but I may be dreaming. > > > > > > > > > -- 73, Craig Cook - N7OR in Sandy, OR [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
