On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 14:11, Ian Walters wrote: > Just warning everyone to forgive any bad wording in my mail A couple of times > I talked about DirectFB and DFB Cafe as if they were the same thing.
That's OK, mate. I hope in time (and not to much of it) that DirectFB and DFBCafe will be the same thing. > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 1:56 pm, Ian Walters wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:17 am, Karl Bowden wrote: > > > After a quick e-mail to Denis, I have decided to start a project to give > > > DirectFB a Complete Application Framework Environment. How about cafe for > > > short? I want ANY suggestions or thoughts from to dev team before I > > > start. > > > > Good idea... so I take it you have done some extensive testing of the > > multi-process stuff (I keep meaning to but never get around to it). I know > > all the code is there, but I was under the impression it needed more > > testing still. Actually I have not had the chance yet. But I think the next major step the project (DirectFB) takes would be the multi-app core that does not require root privilages (but I also have no idea of how hard this would be). > > > > > So far from talking with a few other developers in Australia, I have got > > > this list: > > > > Which part of Australia (I am in Brisbane BTW) Forster, NSW. (About 4 hours north of Sydney, and right on the coast) > > > > > First: KEEP IT EMBEDABLE (not bloatware) > > > and: KEEP IT INTERGRATED > > > > And being from Trolltech I can't help but think I should promote Qtopia as > > fulfilling both of these. Pity for Trolltech they are not your only goals > > > > :). I will try to stay on topic form here on in... > > : > > > Application Framework - An intergrated Desktop, Window, and GUI toolkit, > > > with modular library support to allow easy addition of custom widgets > > > (and a policy to intergreat usefull custom widgets back into the > > > project) > > > > Any plugin architecture should handle this. I just don't want to see this > > go the way of X with everything being in 'extensions'. I am just saying be > > careful what you say isn't core. I agree completly with you, and think it is important to lay a good ground work for DirectFB not to turn out like X. I also though do not want to stifel peoples creativity, but not including patches, widgets, etc. > > > Display Setup Program > > > > This (or at least Display setup) should be probably written directly to the > > DirectFB API, and to a console mode. In fact it would probably be useful > > regardless. Although currently all I can think of that needs setting are > > what goes in fb-modes. I think a GUI Display setup would be nice. Maybe with vesa fallback when other drivers fail. I also see DFBCafe being used by the Display Setup Program to display options. Would it be best to put both the Display Setup Program and DFBCafe in DirectFB (How about getting it integrated into the kernel?:-)? > > > SDL and OpenGL libraries for Game developement > > > > I would focus on this, it would be one of the really big advantages and not > > just for game development. Transcode I think might at least touch on some > > useful ideas as well, but don't ask me any details. With standard input libraries provided by DirectFB and using SDL and OpenGL I could see DirectFB becomming a very viable platform for commercial games. > > > java, Gnome, KDE, Motif, BeOS, X, and TK widget wrappers > > > > Let me know if you start work on a Qt port. I haven't yet had time to do > > it myself but I have looked at doing it once or twice. I saw the word > > wrappers and not port up above, so I know this may not be what you meant. Should the GUI (Cafe) be written in C or C++? > > > I will do that as soon as some one comes up with a good name for the > > > project. > > > > Um, can't think of anything yet.. but it sounds as if DFB Cafe should be a > > good working name for now. I would also like to see it intergrated enough to make it usable with set-top boxes, mp3 players, etc. Not only (but primarly) a desktop enviroment in other words. > > > Personally I would hate to see DirectFB just become another way to run > > > X11 apps, and would hate to see any disunity on the DirectFB platform > > > like between GNOME and KDE. Although I would hope to intergrate most of > > > the GNOME and KDE functions and widgets into DirectFB. > > > > Rather than integrating the widgets, you might want to see what are the > > best features, (such as DCop and parts from KDE, I am sure Gnome has > > something worthwhile). After all if it proves so useful in a > > window-manager, (and can without bias be put into DirectFB) it probably is > > worth integration. Agreed. What has a better archatecher, gnome or qt? > > > Regards, (and avidly waiting to here responses) > > > Karl Bowden > > > > Yeah, I know my reply hasn't had that much actual information. But I would > > like to see this succeed, so I suggest working out a 'what is needed > > first'. and get to something that could be handled by a handful of people > > in a few months. This would help get it off the ground. > > > > Good luck. > > > > -- > Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > "unsubscribe directfb-dev" as subject. > -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe directfb-dev" as subject.
