On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 9:31 pm, Karl Bowden wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 20:58, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Karl Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > That's ok. My idea of having DFBCafe included in DirectFB was to ensure
> > > that the widget toolkit was STANDARD. Just to prevent what has happened
> > > with KDE, Gnome, TK, Mozilla, etc.
> >
> > what exactly is bad about having a variety of toolkits? The only thing
> > that's annoying is if they interact badly. Lately the KDE and GNOME
> > people put a lot of effort into improving the interoperability of
> > their applications. If you are interested you should probably have a
> > look at http://www.freedesktop.org/. There are a couple of
> > toolkit-independent proposals and specs there that should definitely
> > be considered for whatever new application framework you are designing.
>
> Completly agreed. I will have a good look at freedesktop.org. But a lot
> of developers I have talked to in my travels, have felt that linux was
> not ready as a viable alternative to windows for there applications,
> because of the fact that there are so many standard toolkits for X11.
> They will not write a program for gnome for fear of kde people not using
> it and vise versa. If we give DirectFB a standard toolkit that is
> themeable to FEEL like gnome or kde or anything, then developers just
> have to write the app for the api, and the clients choose how they want
> (all) their apps to look.

There are multiple toolkits on Windows.  Qt for instance is on Windows, Mac 
and a bunch of Unix like systems. (Qt is what is under KDE).  Some people 
have this bias, but not all.  My life is Qt, but I run Gimp.  I don't care 
that its a GTK program, I just want a good image manipulation program.

The people who would shun Gnome for KDE are not going to flock to option 3 
anyway.   Don't theme to KDE or Gnome either.  DirectFB is more powerful than 
that.  Design a DirectFB theme (or themeing standard) and get the KDE/Gnome 
to match that.   Qt on the Mac looks like a Mac application, on XP looks like 
XP.  KDE therefore should look like a DirectFB application, not the other way 
around.

In fact (and sorry to the KDE/Qt people out there) Push the GTK/Gnome stuff 
first.  Its closer and once its up and running, it will give the KDE people 
all that more reason to port.

--
Ian.



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