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> Hello Patrick,
> 
> Monday, September 11, 2000, 3:58:33 PM, you wrote:
> 
>> (7)    Unless something is done resellers are going to be hit hard esp. in
>> India
> 
> I think the effects of some registrars offer $6.75 domains on RSP's is
> grossly exaggerated.  The same people whining about price are the ones
> who think OpenSRS should be providing them every other service under
> the sun to resell as well, like URL Forwarding, email forward, etc.

Hey William,

Why do you think this is grossly exaggerated?  Do you base your thought, or
perhaps this is your feeling, on hard cold facts or direct experience in the
market that these concerns are coming from?  Are you on the street in Delhi
right now, or in a pub in Bombay where people are perhaps discussing buying
their first domain or second or third ?  Do you really know what 5.00 u.s.
difference in the retail price of a domain name might mean to the target
market that these business people  are after? (5.00 $ number is the
differnce between the 6.75 price and an opensrs reseller paying 10. dollars
and marking it up another $1.75)



I will guess that their are many different markets in a country of one
billion people, so it's possible that one strategy will work for one
business and a different one for another.  Again, if a business person in
India may be trying to earn profit from selling domains, perhaps they are
getting crushed by the bulldozing fist of someone who has enough capital to
go to Icann directly.  Alot of people were disgusted with NSI's monopoly,
and now disgusted by their buyout and control by a 20 billion dollar
corporation.  Only a fool thinks this medium called the internet is a level
playing field.  This is Capitalism 101 being played out.  Where Capital over
rides freedom in the market place.


I rarely find people's posts about their concerns about price, sounding
whining.  Whining is a great word to use to diss someone, especially if you
don't like what they are saying, it's an approach sometimes used by people
who don't take the time to truly listen to other people's dilemmas.  As for
some people wanting other services added by opensrs to domain name selling.
You make it sound like this is sinful, or lazy, or ...   i don't know what.
Their is nothing wrong with a business person requesting additional services
to be added on by their wholesaler or manufacturer.

 For the record, opensrs's $10. price is fine for my business model.
> 
> These people want a business handed to them on a silver platter.

Do they really?  Maybe they are busting their asses at other aspects of
their business.  

  And for the record, if you want to hand me a business on a silver platter,
i will gladly accept it,... or instead, you could just write me a cheque,
cause for me, the business side of what i do is only a means for other
efforts i am involved with that are way more important to me than
"Business".

 > The
> add-on services, for example, are all easily implemented by simply
> learning a language you should know anyway if you are an RSP running
> OpenSRS scripts (PERL).   These RSPs don't understand that it is up to
> THEM to create the value add themselves.  And with the value adds,
> which can include other services besides domains, price suddenly is no
> longer the important issue.

Perhaps price is no longer the important issue for your clients and your
approach.  Good on ya.
  It is rediculous to think that everyone is running their business like
you, and is catering to the same income levels and spending powers that you
are.  This point reminds me of a posting by an advertising executive on
Direct-L (Macromedia Director list) a couple years back.  He told me flatly
to pay the 5,000. u.s. dollar extended licensing fee and stop complaining.
Well, i had just scraped up the $1500. in my minimum wage job to get the
software.  5,000. dollars was 800 hours of work for me, never mind paying my
rent and buying food.  For him this 5,000. dollars was chump change.  He
didn't think for a second that others might live completely different
lifestyles than him. (A year and a half later, Macromedia scrapped the whole
extended licensing fee.)

We can go to bar in Geneva and you can buy a beer for $80. u.s.
We can also go to a touristy Tea house in Northern India, and buy a ChaiTea
for 20 cents.  We can then get a small Tea at a train station for 2 cents.

I'll take the Tea house in Northern India (Dharamsala), please.

> 
> I can recommend 3 perl books which will teach you everything you need
> to know.  One is on using the DBI modules to create dynamic database
> driven applications, which is what you are going to need to know to
> run a URL Forwarding service or other related service.
> 
> People who see a direct resell of what OpenSRS provides, and nothing
> more on their end, as a profit making business option, are, in most
> probability, setting themselves up for failure.

This may be true.  But maybe Not.  As i stated earlier this a.m.  even 50
cents profit per name sale times even 50,000 names registered, is still
25,000 u.s. dollars profit.  Their are 1,000,000,000 people in India.  One
of the obvious problems here is that we have a two tiered name purchasing
system that shuts out many people from participating in the first tier
because of the costs.   I realize that Opensrs can't solve this problem.

> They also tend to be
> the ones less inclined to do the work themselves for what they want to
> do in their business.

Huh?  Where are you drawing this conclusion from?  Do you know how many
hours in a day they are working?  I'd be curious to hear directly from these
fellow posters.

> 
> Sorry for the generalities in the above paragraphs, I will note for
> the record that there are (rare) exceptions, but these statements do
> apply to the bulk of what I see posted here.

I don't think/feel your statement applies.  I think you are guessing alot
and making assumptions.

 I also want you to know that I realize you are attempting to shed light
about some fundamentals around business strategy.

 Part of what i am at issue with here, is simply how people are talking to
each other.  

Swerve.

> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> William                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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