On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:28:02AM -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
> 
> As was send several times over the last month:
> 
> 1) They find the domain is new by access to the zone files, which is
> free to anyone.
> 
> 2) They get the domain contact info from whois, which is free to
> anyone

Except for rate limiting whois.  This doesn't scale.

> 3) The spam is not the result of data selling

Chickenboners are lazy... its easier to scrape addresses from webpages
or usenet... or buying addresses.

> 4) There is no way of opting out of being in the dns zone files or the
> whois, short of not registering domain names, which is always an
> option.

You could opt-out of being in the data being sold (or opt into being sold).
E-mail addresses in whois could be opt-in/out.  There is little need for
everyone on the planet to know tech-/admin-/billing-contact addresses.


 
> Friday, April 27, 2001, 10:56:25 AM, John Payne wrote:
> 
> > I received a spam referencing one of my domains less than 72 hours 
> > after registering that domain.
> 
> > Spam headers:
> 
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Received: from cowmaster.domaincow.com (unknown [216.38.168.39])
> >         by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A0737FD
> >         for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > Received: from nsi [216.38.168.58] by cowmaster.domaincow.com
> >   (SMTPD32-6.04) id A29E3C1D96; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 23:21:05 -0400
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 23:21:05 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [RE:] Domain Name: CBC-NET.NET
> > X-Mailer: OEM New Domain Name Mailer
> > X-SMTP-PEER: 216.38.168.39
> > Content-Length: 908
> > Lines: 30
> 
> > popensrs "done" message headers:
> 
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Received: from n3.opensrs.net (n3.opensrs.net [216.40.33.35])
> >         by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8324737F4
> >         for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:10:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > Received: (from popensrs@localhost)
> >         by n3.opensrs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17899;
> >         Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:10:06 -0400
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:10:06 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:
> > X-SMTP-PEER: 216.40.33.35
> > Content-Length: 101
> > Lines: 12
> 
> > Several of my customers have received spam to addresses *ONLY EVER USED*
> > to register domains through me.
> 
> 
> > a) Has tucows sold the whois database to anyone
> > b) Can we opt-out of any dataselling?   
> > c) How is the opt-in only going?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  William                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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