Hello John,

Friday, April 27, 2001, 11:32:42 AM, John Payne wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:28:02AM -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
>> 
>> As was send several times over the last month:
>> 
>> 1) They find the domain is new by access to the zone files, which is
>> free to anyone.
>> 
>> 2) They get the domain contact info from whois, which is free to
>> anyone

> Except for rate limiting whois.  This doesn't scale.

Trust me, there are ways around rate limits.

>> 3) The spam is not the result of data selling

> Chickenboners are lazy... its easier to scrape addresses from webpages
> or usenet... or buying addresses.

That's not how you are getting this spam.

>> 4) There is no way of opting out of being in the dns zone files or the
>> whois, short of not registering domain names, which is always an
>> option.

> You could opt-out of being in the data being sold (or opt into being sold).
> E-mail addresses in whois could be opt-in/out.  There is little need for
> everyone on the planet to know tech-/admin-/billing-contact addresses.

Email in whois is, and should be, mandatory.  But that's not something
we can change here anyway.

Even if you opt-out of the bulk access whois, it won't stop these
messages, since that is not how they are getting the data.

-- 
Best regards,
 William                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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