This is one of those rare times I agree with William.
You might as well learn to live with spam because you are not going to
eliminate it, even if you devote 24 hours per day to the project.
I have 67 active web sites, so you can imagine the amount of spam I receive
each day. I set up my mail filters to eliminate a lot of it, but I still
receive several hundred per day.
It's still faster to hit delete and move on than it is to spend time worring
about something that I can not change.
As to your question, it is part of our registration agreement that we have
the right to send email to the listed contacts. It would be kind of stupid
not to have that in the agreement.
Part of our renewal notice does contain information about our hosting
service. Nothing in bad taste, just a two line special offer at the bottom
of the renewal message for our hosting service. This is why we offer
domain name registration and renewals at such a low price, so that we can
bring our hosting service to their attention once a year at renewal time.
I have had idiots complaining about being spammed when we sent them the
second email renewal notice 30 days prior to expiration. They claimed that
they would have renewed the domain after receiving the 60 day notice if they
had wanted to renew the domain name. Yet we gave clearly gave them an email
address at the bottom of the renewal notice where they could respond that
they did not wish to renew the domain name and instruct us not to send them
additional email concerning renewal of the domain. Had they done that they
would not have received a second notice.
Yet most do not renew the domain name after they receive the 3rd notice, the
day before deactivation. And many do not renew until the day after
deactivation, althougth we send them three renewal notices.
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William X. Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darrell Harder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:41 AM
Subject: Re[2]: Mailing lists
> Hello Darrell,
>
> Is it really worth all the headache?
>
> Hit delete and go on.
>
> Sunday, June 10, 2001, 10:46:36 PM, Darrell Harder wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
>
> > The other day I received mail from a .CA service because as
they claim,
>
> >> You are receiving this email as a registered contact on one
> >> or more .ca domain names registered with Cxxxxxxn Dxxxxx
> >> Nxxx Sxxxxxxx Inc. ( http://xxxxx.ca ).
> > And on and on it goes about their services and future sales
information.
>
> > The domain in question here was registered through HomeDNS and
was
> > also paid for through HomeDNS. Yes, I am the Technical Contact: on the
name
> > in question but the DNS is provider by the above company. What right do
these
> > people have by misleading the domain owner that the domain is registered
though
> > them by sending unsolicited e-mail? No where have I ever subscribed with
these
> > people or ever want to. I get enough spam on a daily basis to last me
for 2 hours
> > everyday from others.
>
> > I sent them a warning about spamming and they felt that they
have the right
> > to mail me their information regarding their services. Now I ask, is
this allowed?
> > Just where do host providers get off thinking they can just go ahead and
start
> > mailing all the tech contacts when they feel like it. On top of that
they think that
> > I should take it up with the domain owner. ??? huh!?! I mean I never
opted
> > in to a list... so I don't understand the reasoning behind this. Also,
they made
> > mention that "Our forms are automated with the CIRA database" in
another
> > message when I confronted them about spamming. Is this allowed? Just
where
> > do people draw the line when others think just because you use your name
and
> > e-mail someplace that gives then the right to mail whom they please?
>
> > Is anyone else here mailing their domain holder clients and tech
contacts
> > with their services? I would like to know just where and how far
resellers or registrars
> > can go with this mail and claim it is not spam because they are listed
someplace
> > as a tech, billing or admin contact on a domain. Maybe a policy that is
in place
> > would be a great place for me to start so that something can be done
about this.
>
> > I welcome all feedback on this issue and will reply as best I
can. This is important
> > because if this is allowed then at what point is spam not spam. I
understand the
> > meaning of spam as "unsolicited mass e-mail". Please correct me if this
is wrong
> > and can supply a clearer explaination.
>
> > Regards,
> > ...Darrell
>
> > HomeDNS
> > http://www.homedns.com
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> William X Walsh
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Owner, Userfriendly.com
> Userfriendly.com Domains
> The most advanced domain lookup tool on the net
>
>
