> I still think that these companies should be using their own
> certificates. I think it's fair to say that $100 per year to do so is
> pretty inexpensive for anyone doing _any_ kind of e-commerce. This
> shouldn't be an expense that you have to pay.
The servers I run are all mine :) It's hobby, (mostly) not business, and
the ~$500 USD comes straight out of my pocket. I'd be willing to consider
paying for a single certificate shared across my servers, but even the
$100USD/year is a little steep when it comes down to not wanting the popup.
I don't do e-commerce inhouse, and no "customer" will ever see the secure
pages unless I do some other work for them and they are accessing a
management interface..
> As for the application only working from the root directory, I'd say
> that's an odd design flaw.
Yup. Generally there seems to be no concept of what path it's run from, so
it simply refers to itself as /app.dll
It was designed to run under it's own server, where this isn't a limitation.
Running it under IIS, while supported, isn't as well developed.
Of course, I've also got something like $5K/server worth of software
licences free because of my relationship with that company, and because of
what I do for them. (As a start, among other things, I answer more of their
support questions then they do in their public forums)
> Now, I expect some to say that either they can't get, don't want to use
> up, or else have to pay exhorbitantly for additional IP addresses. Once
> again, if you have to pay, pass the cost on to the customer. If your
> provider is unwilling to give you aditional IP addresses, find a
> different provider. I know that's not always an attractive option, but
> I'm dead serious. I've run across bandwidth providers unwilling (or too
> lazy) to acquire IP addresses for their customers, no matter the
> legitimacy of the need. I'd never even consider hosting or colocating
> using a network connection from such an outfit.
I cannot get additional IP addresses (See below -- And I happen to agree
with your comments :)
In my case, it's a bad provider, and the costs are too high already for what
effectively is a hobby. They simply won't give me more then three IPs
though. Although I do charge for some services, and I do make a bit of coin
from them, it's no where near what the out of pocket costs for my current
connections.
At this time, I'm presently looking into other options, as I'm soon to be
not only stepping over their bandwidth limits, but stepping over the monthly
limit within the first week.
If I'm willing to move my servers out from my basement office to an offsite
location, then I can get as many IP addresses I want, I just have to pay. A
block of 32 is $299/year, so that's fairly affordable, even for a hobby.
Base costs are only $1200/year for 1.5Mb (upstream), so that's much more
affordable, and I may actually purchase certificates at that time. But
costs are still very much a concern, because I will not make enough money to
finance my costs.
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