I understand your frustration, but (topic aside) I have to ask you to
watch your languange.

The answer was in Scott's MEA CULPAemail:

In one of these trials, it was possible *under certain conditions* for
these third parties to get access (for registration) to our deleted pool
(after day forty). I will state that this particular trial has been
underway for a very short period of time, has been suspended as of today,
and had a barely perceptible impact on the number of names we "dropped".

As I am not aware of your correspondence with your sales rep or Ross, I
cannot comment on that, as my involvement has been peripheral at best.

Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, zxcvb wrote:

> First of all we still do not have an answer about the question as to
> whether domains were transferred directly to DurectSeek.com.  I can
> going forward with the assumption that the answer is yes.  The first
> issue that comes up is that all such domains have to be deleted and put
> back into the pool of available domains.
> 
> As for the claim that Tucows addressed this issue with 24 hours is
> completely false.  I contacted Tucows last Monday about this.  When I
> started asking questions my salesperson stopped responding to my e-mail.
> Ross Rader on this list told me to contact him by telephone and I did.
> He did not return the phone calls or e-mails I sent.  The only way I was
> able to get any kind of response (which, to this point, is still
> unacceptably vague) was to come on list and argue for days.  I suspect
> we would still be in the same situation if I didn't publicize this.
> 
> I don't have a huge account but I have spent more than $100,000 on
> domain registrations via Tucows.  Hopefully the stock will peak again
> soon do I can dump that before the whole company goes under.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Allan
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 7:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MEA CULPA: Tucows domain deletions
> 
> Howdy -
> 
> First of all, thanks again for everyone's patience wrt this issue.
> Clearly
> the timing of it has been a challenge for us, and we have not been able
> to
> jump all over it like we would if it weren't more or less the last
> working
> day before the holidays, with many senior staff out of the office
> (including myself), and the eve of an extremely important technical move
> (moving our systems from Exodus to IBM), not to mention the .biz
> litigation. I appreciate everyone who has been patient and not jumped to
> conclusions, as well as those who have sent messages of support
> off-list.
> 
> I believe we have made a judgement error, and for that I apologize. I
> can
> report that we have stopped all our "testing" as of this afternoon,
> pending further review. Now, the details...
> 
> We have been watching and exploring the "expired" name marketplace for a
> very long time. Some of you will remeber us inviting Snapnames to post
> their value proposition here way back in the day. There is no question
> that:
> 
> - expired names are in demand by many people with different motivations
> (including noble registrant interests and speculators)
> - expired names have not been properly defined ot treated within ICANN's
> policies
> - expired names are handled in a dramatically different ways by
> different
> registrars
> - CNO expired names are not handled well by the registry
> (understatement)
> - there are real "un-resolved" issues wrt expired names
> 
> It is important to distinguish between what we call "internal" expired
> names and "external" expired names. "Internal" names were registered or
> transferred to Tucows and expired, and "external" names were registered
> or
> transferred to other registrars, expired, and then "deleted" making them
> availaible for "re-registration". We have been exploring service
> offerings
> whithin both of these markets, and have conducted tests (interviews with
> resellers registrars, and registries, as well as technical trials of
> "skunkworks" (pre-product) solutions) to evaluate the best way to
> address
> these opportunities/challenges over at least the last year. The batch
> pool
> (a full service offering all resellers have equal free access to) is a
> good example of our progress.
> 
> Most recently, we have given further attention to "internal dropped
> names", and have conducted some tests with third parties (who have
> been very helpful in providing data and tactical advice for a long
> time) to examine the possiblities of a service offering within this
> space. In one third parties to get access (for registration) to our
> deleted pool (after day forty). I will state that this particular
> trial has been underway for a very short period of time, has been
> suspended as of today, and had a barely perceptible impact on the
> number of names we "dropped".
> 
> Regardless, it is clear to us that this was not a good judgement call,
> and
> that we had to do what we could to immediately stop it until we had more
> clearly communicated with our resellers. This was a mistake, and we have
> have corrected it, within 24 hours of our "realization". I hope you can
> appreciate our intentions are good, and I assure you that we will learn
> from this painful experience. Essentially, this was a test that did not
> benefit from full consideration of the implications.
> 
> We will continue to pursue a "dropped names" service offering, as we
> know
> (from your feedback) that there is demand for it. We need to be more
> careful in "bringing along" our channel with us as we explore these
> issues
> (which really was always our intention), so that our offering closely
> reflects the kick-ass and fair service offerings you have come to expect
> from us.
> 
> My guests are starting to arrive, so I gotta run. I will be away for the
> next few days, but will read (and stimulate) further  discussion on
> these
> issues so that we can get to where we need to be; delivering service
> offerings that are enthusiastically supported by our partners, and that
> kill the competition.
> 
> My very best wishes to you and yours for the holidays -
> 
> Regards,
> 
> sA
> 
> Scott Allan
> Director, OpenSRS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 


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