Jack,
1) CIRA is not really a government job. It's a not for profit. It's
simply given a mandate by the government.
2) There are many high profile cities that are trying to get their
domain name. However many politicians don't like it when you say 'oh -- we
are only going to reserve toronto.ca but not hamilton.ca because hamilton
is not big enough'. The fact dildo.ca gets knocked off I know stinks but
those are the breaks.
3) Please do run. Submit your name for nomination. There is enough votes
around here that one could get them self on the board. The one thing I
encourage is people who sit squatting saying how easy and cushy my job is
and to come and try the fine art of 'political balance' anytime.
Seriously. Run for the board.
4) I hate those announcements too. But after trying to quash them we were
told that because domain holders are members they must get official
corporate notices. If your customer does not become a member they won't
get those notices btw -- but then they cant vote.
Cheers,
Paul
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Jack Broughton wrote:
> <shakes his head> How can I get one of these cushy jobs in pseudo government
> like CIRA, make all the policies on a whim with total impunity, when they all
> blow up just make more policies and not really have to answer to anyone? Sounds
> like a pretty good gig!
>
> The municipal exclusions are a bit of a sore point because many of them belong
> to places in Canada that I doubt would ever even consider a domain name in this
> lifetime. On top of that why can't the exclusion just be on the provincial
> level and not affect the CCTLD? It's a good thing that Dildo, Nova Scotia (or
> was it Newfoundland?) renamed itself not too long ago or the person who owns
> Dildo.ca wouldn't be able to get it! :) (The domain name that is...)
>
> While normal registrations at the provincial level being setup to force first
> right of refusal to people registering top level .CA domains has a case to be
> argued (not sure I agree but still) telling people they can never register a TLD
> because a sub-domain may want to be registered in the unknown future seems a
> little unfair. I don't believe there's any mechanism for these little burghs to
> approve a domain being registered at the top level.
>
> And in other CIRA ineptness news I think we should run a contest to see how many
> CIRA election announcement emails people on this list get. Can these people not
> do some sort of listserv? I mean getting an exact duplicate email for every
> single domain I have registered at the .CA level is a ridiculous waste of
> bandwidth and mailserver time. Of course... when you're pseudo governmental
> what's money and efficiency besides a totally foreign concept? :)
>
> Jack Broughton
> CanTech Solutions
>
> Ken Joy wrote:
>
> > CIRA uses:
> >
> > http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/english/cgndb.html
> >
> > You could conceiveably wildcard search the thing for a complete list, BUT,
> > you have to include at least two characters. If anyone goes through all the
> > letters, please email me the entire list :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Daminato
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:33 AM
> > > To: Eric Paynter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric...
> > >
> > > My sincere condolences, however:
> > >
> > > > 1. Why doesn't OpenSRS catch this when the order is placed?
> > >
> > > We don't have an authoritative list, we only find out when we try
> > > to process
> > > the domain at the registry, so we can't check it.
> > >
> > > > 2. Where is the list of municipal restricted .ca names so we can
> > > > do our own checking in the future?
> > >
> > > There IS list of all municipalities published by the Gov't of Canada but
> > > afaik it's not free (and actually quite expensive, subscription based)
> > >
> > > I *did* find something from the Government that has a list of names, but I
> > > don't know how accurate this is, and you'll likely have to get permission
> > > from the Gov't of Canada to take the information from this site. I'll see
> > > if there's anything we can do to get a list locally, and alter our lookups
> > > to suit.
> > >
> > > http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/scdt/businessmap/engdoc/10.9.9999.html
> > >
> > > The format for the URL is 10.X.9999.html where X is:
> > >
> > > 1 = Alberta, 2 = British Columbia, 3 = Manitoba, 4 = New Brunswick, 5 =
> > > Newfoundland, 6 = Northwest Territories, 7 = Nova Scotia, 8 = Nunavut, 9 =
> > > Ontario, 10 = Prince Edward Island, 11 = Quebec, 12 = Saskatchewan, 13 =
> > > Yukon
> > >
> > > But I don't know
> > >
> > > Charles Daminato
> > > OpenSRS Product Manager
> > > Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Paynter
> > > > Sent: March 6, 2002 8:49 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, CIRA has me pulling my hair out again... We have a domain in pending
> > > > queue because the customer's credit card information (address
> > > > etc.) was out
> > > > of date. After spending considerable time on the phone with this person
> > > > convincing him to go to the bank and update his info so that we
> > > can do an
> > > > address verification, waiting days for this to be done while
> > > > playing phone
> > > > tag with the customer, listening to him gripe at us about how he
> > > > believes he
> > > > really shouldn't be doing business on the Internet anyway because
> > > > all this
> > > > fraud prevention stuff is scaring him, finally getting
> > > > confirmation that the
> > > > info is updated and getting a green light from Visa that the info
> > > > matches...
> > > > Click "Register Now" in the RWI and it returns: "Domain name is
> > > > restricted
> > > > to municipal government."
> > > >
> > > > Now I get to formulate the email that says sorry, we are so
> > > > incompetant that
> > > > we didn't even realize ahead of time your domain name is not
> > > > available to a
> > > > Canadian Citizen which is exactly what you put on our order form so we
> > > > should have been able to catch it... Better luck next time!
> > > >
> > > > My questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Why doesn't OpenSRS catch this when the order is placed?
> > > > 2. Where is the list of municipal restricted .ca names so we can
> > > > do our own
> > > > checking in the future?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > -Eric P.
> > > >
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> > >
>
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