This is rediculous.

All Canadians who might consider buying domain names should be given free
access to this information to save everyone time and grief.  Duh.

Swerve

  

> From: "Ken Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:53:40 -0500
> To: "Swerve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "opensrs discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
> 
> Becuase they pay for it...:)
> 
> Ken
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Swerve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]This
>> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:43 PM
>> To: Ken Joy; opensrs discuss
>> Subject: Re: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
>> 
>> 
>> Stating the obvious.
>> 
>> Why doesn't CIRA just publish the list?
>> 
>> Swerve
>> 
>>> From: "Ken Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:38:07 -0500
>>> To: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Eric Paynter"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: RE: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
>>> 
>>> CIRA uses:
>>> 
>>> http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/english/cgndb.html
>>> 
>>> You could conceiveably wildcard search the thing for a complete
>> list, BUT,
>>> you have to include at least two characters. If anyone goes
>> through all the
>>> letters, please email me the entire list :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Daminato
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:33 AM
>>>> To: Eric Paynter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Subject: RE: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Eric...
>>>> 
>>>> My sincere condolences, however:
>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Why doesn't OpenSRS catch this when the order is placed?
>>>> 
>>>> We don't have an authoritative list, we only find out when we try
>>>> to process
>>>> the domain at the registry, so we can't check it.
>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Where is the list of municipal restricted .ca names so we can
>>>>> do our own checking in the future?
>>>> 
>>>> There IS list of all municipalities published by the Gov't of
>> Canada but
>>>> afaik it's not free (and actually quite expensive, subscription based)
>>>> 
>>>> I *did* find something from the Government that has a list of
>> names, but I
>>>> don't know how accurate this is, and you'll likely have to get
>> permission
>>>> from the Gov't of Canada to take the information from this
>> site.  I'll see
>>>> if there's anything we can do to get a list locally, and alter
>> our lookups
>>>> to suit.
>>>> 
>>>> http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/scdt/businessmap/engdoc/10.9.9999.html
>>>> 
>>>> The format for the URL is 10.X.9999.html where X is:
>>>> 
>>>> 1 = Alberta, 2 = British Columbia, 3 = Manitoba, 4 = New Brunswick, 5 =
>>>> Newfoundland, 6 = Northwest Territories, 7 = Nova Scotia, 8 =
>> Nunavut, 9 =
>>>> Ontario, 10 = Prince Edward Island, 11 = Quebec, 12 =
>> Saskatchewan, 13 =
>>>> Yukon
>>>> 
>>>> But I don't know
>>>> 
>>>> Charles Daminato
>>>> OpenSRS Product Manager
>>>> Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Paynter
>>>>> Sent: March 6, 2002 8:49 PM
>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Subject: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, CIRA has me pulling my hair out again... We have a domain
>> in pending
>>>>> queue because the customer's credit card information (address
>>>>> etc.) was out
>>>>> of date. After spending considerable time on the phone with
>> this person
>>>>> convincing him to go to the bank and update his info so that we
>>>> can do an
>>>>> address verification, waiting days for this to be done while
>>>>> playing phone
>>>>> tag with the customer, listening to him gripe at us about how he
>>>>> believes he
>>>>> really shouldn't be doing business on the Internet anyway because
>>>>> all this
>>>>> fraud prevention stuff is scaring him, finally getting
>>>>> confirmation that the
>>>>> info is updated and getting a green light from Visa that the info
>>>>> matches...
>>>>> Click "Register Now" in the RWI and it returns: "Domain name is
>>>>> restricted
>>>>> to municipal government."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I get to formulate the email that says sorry, we are so
>>>>> incompetant that
>>>>> we didn't even realize ahead of time your domain name is not
>>>>> available to a
>>>>> Canadian Citizen which is exactly what you put on our order form so we
>>>>> should have been able to catch it... Better luck next time!
>>>>> 
>>>>> My questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Why doesn't OpenSRS catch this when the order is placed?
>>>>> 2. Where is the list of municipal restricted .ca names so we can
>>>>> do our own
>>>>> checking in the future?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Eric P.
>>>>> 
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>> 
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