Stating the obvious.

  Why doesn't CIRA just publish the list?

Swerve

> From: "Ken Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:38:07 -0500
> To: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Eric Paynter"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
> 
> CIRA uses:
> 
> http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/english/cgndb.html
> 
> You could conceiveably wildcard search the thing for a complete list, BUT,
> you have to include at least two characters. If anyone goes through all the
> letters, please email me the entire list :)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ken
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Daminato
>> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:33 AM
>> To: Eric Paynter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
>> 
>> 
>> Eric...
>> 
>> My sincere condolences, however:
>> 
>>> 1. Why doesn't OpenSRS catch this when the order is placed?
>> 
>> We don't have an authoritative list, we only find out when we try
>> to process
>> the domain at the registry, so we can't check it.
>> 
>>> 2. Where is the list of municipal restricted .ca names so we can
>>> do our own checking in the future?
>> 
>> There IS list of all municipalities published by the Gov't of Canada but
>> afaik it's not free (and actually quite expensive, subscription based)
>> 
>> I *did* find something from the Government that has a list of names, but I
>> don't know how accurate this is, and you'll likely have to get permission
>> from the Gov't of Canada to take the information from this site.  I'll see
>> if there's anything we can do to get a list locally, and alter our lookups
>> to suit.
>> 
>> http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/scdt/businessmap/engdoc/10.9.9999.html
>> 
>> The format for the URL is 10.X.9999.html where X is:
>> 
>> 1 = Alberta, 2 = British Columbia, 3 = Manitoba, 4 = New Brunswick, 5 =
>> Newfoundland, 6 = Northwest Territories, 7 = Nova Scotia, 8 = Nunavut, 9 =
>> Ontario, 10 = Prince Edward Island, 11 = Quebec, 12 = Saskatchewan, 13 =
>> Yukon
>> 
>> But I don't know
>> 
>> Charles Daminato
>> OpenSRS Product Manager
>> Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Paynter
>>> Sent: March 6, 2002 8:49 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: List of municipal restricted .ca names?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK, CIRA has me pulling my hair out again... We have a domain in pending
>>> queue because the customer's credit card information (address
>>> etc.) was out
>>> of date. After spending considerable time on the phone with this person
>>> convincing him to go to the bank and update his info so that we
>> can do an
>>> address verification, waiting days for this to be done while
>>> playing phone
>>> tag with the customer, listening to him gripe at us about how he
>>> believes he
>>> really shouldn't be doing business on the Internet anyway because
>>> all this
>>> fraud prevention stuff is scaring him, finally getting
>>> confirmation that the
>>> info is updated and getting a green light from Visa that the info
>>> matches...
>>> Click "Register Now" in the RWI and it returns: "Domain name is
>>> restricted
>>> to municipal government."
>>> 
>>> Now I get to formulate the email that says sorry, we are so
>>> incompetant that
>>> we didn't even realize ahead of time your domain name is not
>>> available to a
>>> Canadian Citizen which is exactly what you put on our order form so we
>>> should have been able to catch it... Better luck next time!
>>> 
>>> My questions:
>>> 
>>> 1. Why doesn't OpenSRS catch this when the order is placed?
>>> 2. Where is the list of municipal restricted .ca names so we can
>>> do our own
>>> checking in the future?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> -Eric P.
>>> 
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