Chris - i stand corrected http://www.nominet.org.uk/members/invite.html - costs are � 400 to join & � 100 annual fee + VAT = � 587.50 - then you get domains @ � 5 each http://www.nominet.org.uk/ref/tag-holders.html = non-member TAG holder - domains cost � 80 each + VAT never understood why people become TAG holders only unless its a hobby & they have less than half a dozen domain names - or maybe they can't work the PGP Automation
Anyway - back to the original question about DETAGGED domains Nominet appears to frown on TAG holders that put a lien an domain names for unpaid bills however, if you bought a domain through another TAG holder you should have read their full T&C's to see what happens if you try to move your domain away some companies build their business model on "free" domain names as a loss leader part of the "domain package" - why should they help people bag cheap domains buying a cheap domain name without a way of hosting it is akin to buying cheap petrol without a car to put it in Martyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Xeotech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FULLdetails.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: Re: .uk DETAGGED records > Martyn, > > Slightly haywire on the advice mate! Get your facts straight ;-) > > There is a distinct difference between holding a Nominet Tag > and being a Nominet Member. They are not one and the same > thing. Neither for that matter does an IPS Tag cost �500!!! > > See: > > http://www.nominet.org.uk/members/membership.html > > > Cheers, > > > Chris > Xeotech > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > voice/fax: +44(0)7092 199733 ( to email ) > mbl: +44(0)7957 724648 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "FULLdetails.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: .uk DETAGGED records > > > Rob > > if you had an IPS TAG you would have paid � 500 for it and been invoiced � > 100 annually for its renewal - plus the cost of any domain renewals > all-be-it @ � 5 for 2 years instead of the � 80 Nominet charge the public > > just go to www.nic.uk or http://www.nominet.org.uk/members-private > or http://195.66.240.196/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=natweb.co.uk > > the rules are simple - just RTFM :-) > > Martyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 7:41 PM > Subject: RE: .uk DETAGGED records > > > > Thanks Brian, they are actually domains I registered some time ago and was > > not prepared to pay the registry their exorbitant transfer fees to get it > > across to OpenSRS. So I let them expire and was going to re-register them > > afresh. > > I actually have a Nominet TAG (which I've never used) so as the previous > > registrant does that mean I could get in touch with Nominet and get them > to > > allow me to renew using my own TAG - I might as well use mine as I've paid > > for it;-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 19 May 2002 16:52 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: .uk DETAGGED records > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > > I want to register two .co.uk domain names which are shown in WHOIS as > > > DETAGGED but when I try to register them I get a "Sorry, > domainname.co.uk > > > has already been reserved". > > > I thought DETAGGED meant the domain was available > > > > this is unfortnately not the case. > > > > 'DETAGGED' simply means that the current registrars (the TAGholders) have > > told Nominet that they no longer wished to be invoiced for renewals of > this > > domain.... there may be a number of reasons why this could occur - most > > likely will be the tagholders failing to get renewal fees from the > client... > > > > it is also worth bearing in mind that just because a domain is detagged > > doesn't mean the owner of the domain doesn't want it... > > > > I could register a domain for myself today, pay the invoice from Nominet > > (i'm a member) and then detag it - the domain would still be mine for the > > two years (though it would be unwise as there would be no DNS entries and > > hence the domain wouldn't point anywhere! ) - but you get my point?! > > > > it would also mean that Nominet would contact me in two years time and > offer > > to renew it at their standard price of UK�80+VAT (UK�94) > > > > to answer your next question, "when will it become available?"... the > answer > > is who knows... > > > > i've seen domains DETAGGED for years... they are *supposedly* being > released > > back into the pool of available domains, but i've got no firm evidence > that > > it actually occurs! > > > > best advice I can give is to find out when it was registered, add 2 years > > (or multiples of) to that date and work out when it expires... you can > tell > > when it was detagged as the date will be mentioned in the whois. > > > > if there's a while left, then it may be worthwhile contacting the owner > > directly (potentially not easy as details are limited in .uk whois for > now) > > and making an offer... other than that, just wait and keep checking the > > domain. > > > > hope this helps > > > > Brian > > > > > > >
