Expired names are a little fscked up contractually because the contract refers to "active Registered Names"...which creates a double positive with regards to the definition of Registered names - I'm not saying that the interpretation is right, but ICANN has typically hated to enforce in instances where there might be a contractual loophole (ie - transfers).
-rwr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "John T. Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 22:20 Moo! Subject: Re: Changing Admin Info after Refund > Actually, the exact maneuver I was referring to was how they seize domains > which have *expired*. > I can't comment on Register.Com and charge backs, but I do have first hand > experience with then > changing the registrant information if you refuse to renew with them, then > holding the domain indefinitely. > I know for a fact that they DO change the information, and that they DO NOT > always submit for deletion. > 2 clients of mine have domains that Register.Com has been holding in exactly > this status since they expired. One 3 > months ago, the other 5 months ago. I know that, because they do it doesn't > make it right. But then, it's not right > that the rules only apply to those without the means to stagnate a legal > battle either. > -Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mark Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "John T. Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: Changing Admin Info after Refund > > > > Precedence does not make it "right". I don't fully understand the > > legalities of it (Ross would have to explain - Ross?), but I > > believe Register does not take control of the domain (i.e. they > > don't assume ownership and sell to soemone else). They simply > > "hold" it, if it's not paid it stays on hold until the day it > > expires (then it goes up for deletion) > > > > Charles Daminato > > TUCOWS Product Manager > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Mark Petersen wrote: > > > > > Stand on precedence. Register.Com is allowed to seize domains on a daily > > > basis. > > > The routinely change registrants WHOIS information from whatever *was* > there > > > to: > > > > > > register.com > > > Unpaid Names Department-R > > > 575 Eighth Avenue > > > New York, NY 10018 > > > US > > > Phone: 212-798-9200 > > > Fax..: 212-594-9876 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > If they can do it, why shouldn't we be able to? > > > It's supposed to be a level playing field, right? > > > Good luck, > > > Mark > > > > > > Mark Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Planet Nic http://www.planet-nic.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John T. Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:45 PM > > > Subject: Changing Admin Info after Refund > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul over in compliance says it is against ICANN reg's for > > > > me to change admin info after a customer refunds on the > > > > domain name registration: > > > > > > > > "I hate to tell you this but you are not allowed to change > > > > the whois information - ICANN rules. It appears as though > > > > you are trying to take away someone else's property." > > > > > > > > Frankly, I couldn't care less how it looks. I've offered the > > > > refund codes from the merchant account holder LinkPoint > > > > themselves so there's proof behind appearances. > > > > > > > > Can y'all point me to what he's talking to? I can't find it > > > > in the UDRP or the Reg Agreement. I don't mind complying > > > > with written rules if I can find them, but I'd rather not > > > > let this woman steal three domain name registrations if I > > > > don't have to! > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
