Actually, the exact maneuver I was referring to was how they seize domains which have *expired*. I can't comment on Register.Com and charge backs, but I do have first hand experience with then changing the registrant information if you refuse to renew with them, then holding the domain indefinitely. I know for a fact that they DO change the information, and that they DO NOT always submit for deletion. 2 clients of mine have domains that Register.Com has been holding in exactly this status since they expired. One 3 months ago, the other 5 months ago. I know that, because they do it doesn't make it right. But then, it's not right that the rules only apply to those without the means to stagnate a legal battle either. -Mark
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Daminato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mark Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "John T. Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Changing Admin Info after Refund > Precedence does not make it "right". I don't fully understand the > legalities of it (Ross would have to explain - Ross?), but I > believe Register does not take control of the domain (i.e. they > don't assume ownership and sell to soemone else). They simply > "hold" it, if it's not paid it stays on hold until the day it > expires (then it goes up for deletion) > > Charles Daminato > TUCOWS Product Manager > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Mark Petersen wrote: > > > Stand on precedence. Register.Com is allowed to seize domains on a daily > > basis. > > The routinely change registrants WHOIS information from whatever *was* there > > to: > > > > register.com > > Unpaid Names Department-R > > 575 Eighth Avenue > > New York, NY 10018 > > US > > Phone: 212-798-9200 > > Fax..: 212-594-9876 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > If they can do it, why shouldn't we be able to? > > It's supposed to be a level playing field, right? > > Good luck, > > Mark > > > > Mark Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Planet Nic http://www.planet-nic.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John T. Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:45 PM > > Subject: Changing Admin Info after Refund > > > > > > > > > > Paul over in compliance says it is against ICANN reg's for > > > me to change admin info after a customer refunds on the > > > domain name registration: > > > > > > "I hate to tell you this but you are not allowed to change > > > the whois information - ICANN rules. It appears as though > > > you are trying to take away someone else's property." > > > > > > Frankly, I couldn't care less how it looks. I've offered the > > > refund codes from the merchant account holder LinkPoint > > > themselves so there's proof behind appearances. > > > > > > Can y'all point me to what he's talking to? I can't find it > > > in the UDRP or the Reg Agreement. I don't mind complying > > > with written rules if I can find them, but I'd rather not > > > let this woman steal three domain name registrations if I > > > don't have to! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > John > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >
