+1 to Kevin

I love the idea, and I think asking for teachers' consent should be highly
encouraged. I know at my school, there are serious serious consequences for
recording classes w/o the teacher's approval. One of my favorite teachers
(who is very very very free culture friendly) actually prohibits recording
in his classroom. His rationale? Basically what Kevin wrote: his classroom
is a safe space where people can be absurd and goofy and controversial and
say things that they wouldn't say were they recorded.

That being said, I think this can serve as a super useful resource when
consent is given. In my mind there's a distinction between giving consent
and giving permission. Thoughts?

-Adi



On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Kevin Driscoll <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:29 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > From: Rich Jones <[email protected]>
> >
> > For now, we're keeping LectureLeaks strictly legal, so I don't think
> > we'll need to move it to Sweden. Yet. :)
> >
> > We'd much rather have professors simply agree to let their courses
> > continue being online rather than start an online copyright battle
> > with people who are just trying to teach.
>
>
> Very psyched to see this project getting off the ground! As someone
> occasionally in the role of the lecturer, I want to also share three
> concerns that come to mind...
>
> 1. Ours is a noble cause but the history of secret classroom
> recordings is not entirely a proud one. In recent memory, some
> teachers have been attacked and harassed because of surreptitious
> recordings leaked by students. This has been especially troublesome in
> classes that discuss "hot topics" like evolution and socialism.
>
> *
> http://christianexaminer.blogspot.com/2011/02/student-sues-teacher-goes-to-ninth.html
> *
> http://www.pbs.org/teachers/learning.now/2007/02/caught_on_tape_for_better_or_w.html
> *
> http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2010/10/are-your-students-secretly-recording-you-.html
> * http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html
>
>
> 2. Ideally, the classroom is a safe space for students and teachers to
> take risks, ask questions that others might call "dumb", and share
> bits of their personal lives. If students think they are being
> secretly recorded, I'm afraid they'll be less forthcoming in class
> discussion. This chilling effect pits the learning experience of
> in-class students to the potential value of OER.
>
>
> 3. A small complaint about the name: I get the connection to WikiLeaks
> but feel like it sets up an oppositional relationship between the
> student-user and the lecturer. Is this a concern? Or is the project
> primarily student-focused and reaching out to faculty is not a
> priority?
>
>
>
> All that being said, my favorite part of this project is that it
> EXISTS. Better to work on the boat after setting sail than to never
> leave the harbor!
>
> (Plus, I'm looking forward to reading a lengthy comment thread on the
> Chronicle of Higher Ed blog!)
>
> Kevin
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