+1, upvote, etc to Kevin and Adi. As an instructor and aspiring professor my concern isn't copyright/ip for lectures/discussions but maintaining the classroom as an open place for discussions. I'm far more concerned about a) maintaining a place where students feel comfortable and b) not getting sued / fired for talking about controversial topics.
Zach On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Adi Kamdar <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 to Kevin > > I love the idea, and I think asking for teachers' consent should be highly > encouraged. I know at my school, there are serious serious consequences for > recording classes w/o the teacher's approval. One of my favorite teachers > (who is very very very free culture friendly) actually prohibits recording in > his classroom. His rationale? Basically what Kevin wrote: his classroom is a > safe space where people can be absurd and goofy and controversial and say > things that they wouldn't say were they recorded. > > That being said, I think this can serve as a super useful resource when > consent is given. In my mind there's a distinction between giving consent and > giving permission. Thoughts? > > -Adi > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Kevin Driscoll <[email protected]> > wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Rich Jones <[email protected]> > > > > For now, we're keeping LectureLeaks strictly legal, so I don't think > > we'll need to move it to Sweden. Yet. :) > > > > We'd much rather have professors simply agree to let their courses > > continue being online rather than start an online copyright battle > > with people who are just trying to teach. > > > Very psyched to see this project getting off the ground! As someone > occasionally in the role of the lecturer, I want to also share three > concerns that come to mind... > > 1. Ours is a noble cause but the history of secret classroom > recordings is not entirely a proud one. In recent memory, some > teachers have been attacked and harassed because of surreptitious > recordings leaked by students. This has been especially troublesome in > classes that discuss "hot topics" like evolution and socialism. > > * > http://christianexaminer.blogspot.com/2011/02/student-sues-teacher-goes-to-ninth.html > * > http://www.pbs.org/teachers/learning.now/2007/02/caught_on_tape_for_better_or_w.html > * > http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2010/10/are-your-students-secretly-recording-you-.html > * http://dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/03/cell-phone-came.html > > > 2. Ideally, the classroom is a safe space for students and teachers to > take risks, ask questions that others might call "dumb", and share > bits of their personal lives. If students think they are being > secretly recorded, I'm afraid they'll be less forthcoming in class > discussion. This chilling effect pits the learning experience of > in-class students to the potential value of OER. > > > 3. A small complaint about the name: I get the connection to WikiLeaks > but feel like it sets up an oppositional relationship between the > student-user and the lecturer. Is this a concern? Or is the project > primarily student-focused and reaching out to faculty is not a > priority? > > > > All that being said, my favorite part of this project is that it > EXISTS. Better to work on the boat after setting sail than to never > leave the harbor! > > (Plus, I'm looking forward to reading a lengthy comment thread on the > Chronicle of Higher Ed blog!) > > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss
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