My views inline: > On 8 Aug 2019, at 15:47, Purwanto, Wirawan <[email protected]> wrote: > Can we actually take a piece of CC-BY-SA materials and include it in a > greater work that is licensed by CC-BY? I think https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/ShareAlike_compatibility is pretty clear on this:
"CC BY is one-way compatible with BY-SA. You may adapt a BY work and apply BY-SA to your contributions, but you may not adapt a BY-SA work and apply BY to your contributions.” > Assuming that perhaps the piece coming from CC-BY-SA will still be under > CC-BY-SA, and not the CC-BY governing the rest of the work. Is this possible? Yes. This page gives some guidance on this https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Marking/Creators/Marking_third_party_content Essentially it is possible to state at a granular level that particular parts of content are licensed separately. However in terms of the Carpentry lessons and how they are published I’m not sure how easy it would be to manage this. The lessons are currently structured with a license stated at the level of the whole lesson (by a LICENSE.md file in the lesson repository). Possibly this could be worked around by some changes to the LICENSES.md file to indicate there are materials which are licensed separately. It might take some careful wording to accurately describe what is covered by the CC-BY license and what is not. In addition the Software Carpentry website states: "All of our lessons are freely available under the Creative Commons - Attribution License.” (https://software-carpentry.org/lessons/) and "All Software Carpentry instructional material is made available under the Creative Commons Attribution license." (https://software-carpentry.org/license/) Including non CC-BY content (even clearly labelled) would go against these statements in my opinion. It’s also worth considering the downsides of including content with more restrictive licensing - it would make it more difficult for others to re-use the Carpentries content because they would need to ensure they checked and tracked materials licensed under anything other than CC-BY. It could add an overhead to lesson maintainance. > > Related to the question above: Has anyone ever worked with other people in > adopting their materials and relicensing under CC-BY? What experience that > you can share? Are people generally willing to accept such a request? I can only speak as someone who has produced and licensed materials under CC-BY - and my approach is always that I love to see use of the materials I produce, especially if they are appropriately attributed! I’ve currently having a discussion about using some material I’ve previously published as CC-BY in a Library Carpentry lesson - so I can say that at least some producers are very keen on seeing their work re-used widely. I think it is always worth approaching people and asking - the worst outcome is that they say they aren’t willing to amend their license. > > Why I am asking these questions here? Things such as figures, tables, and > code snippets can sometimes hard to come by and if we can leverage what > others have made, all the better, rather than us also spending a lot of time > remaking them just because of incompatible license. I understand this - but I see making such materials available under a CC-BY license as a positive outcome of work on Carpentries material and well worth the investment of time. If we can take concepts and illustrate them in a way that can be more widely re-used that seems like a very good thing. I definitely understand the frustration of finding materials that would be useful but don’t have compatible licenses - this happens a lot! But ultimately for me this is about how Carpentries makes materials available in a way that increases accessibility and use by adopting an Open approach, and I wouldn’t want to see that change. Owen ------------------------------------------ The Carpentries: discuss Permalink: https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/Td64229aeb252a027-M98678e32a6af3b2c14abfd13 Delivery options: https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/discuss/subscription
