Datagrids are the evil demonic spawn of feable minds and people of  
small souls!!!

Time to design a data grid. Maybe they will let me alternate row  
colours!

will evans
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On Feb 12, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Kevin Silver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Too funny and timely. A few unlucky souls over the weekend in Savannah
> had to endure my rant against Data-Grids.  I just reviewed a flex
> application for a client  that relies heavily on data-grids, we're
> going to be fixing that because it just doesn't work in their
> situation. To top it off I recently heard the Adobe Flex evangelist
> speak about the upcoming release of Flex 3 and the biggest feature he
> talked about was the new advanced data-grid.  Though it has some cool
> features, I was left thinking and incoherently mumbling to myself
> "data-grids" to myself over and over again.
>
> My issue against data-grids is that in most situation when I have seen
> it use (and as I must admit have used it in my very distant past with
> Access) it does nothing more than just expose the implementation model
> (a table in the database or a result set from a query) to the user.
> Data-grids are used effectively in many places, but my gripe is that
> just displaying the data doesn't mean you have an application. Where's
> the design?
>
> Kevin
>
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Scott McDaniel wrote:
>
>> In a strict display sense, this is the single most common phrase
>> I've heard from
>> engineers/programmers about design:
>> "Why not just throw it in a data table and be done with it?"
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2008 11:40 AM, Christopher Fahey
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On the subject of Alan Cooper's keynote, did he provide any clarity
>>> on his assertion a few months ago that it is the norm for engineers
>>> to start coding without having done even one second of thinking  
>>> about
>>> design? Not just neglecting to do any interaction or UX design, but
>>> not doing any code planning/design or any design of any sort
>>> whatsoever.
>>>
>>> I was really confused by that, and I think the thread on this list
>>> about that topic kind of fizzled out.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Cf
>>> --
>> If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise,  
>> we
>> don't believe in it at all.
>> Noam Chomsky
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