> On 2/21/08 6:59 PM, "Loren Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to reiterate Dave's earlier point of a distinct lack in
>> career path.  Fresh out of college, the only two companies in
>> California I found that were willing to hire junior IxD's were
>> Google and Intuit.  Most other job postings had steep requirements in
>> terms of experience and degrees.  It's a shame that so few are
>> willing to train younger designers from the start.



On Feb 22, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Mary Austin-Keller wrote:

> I think this is a serious problem with both our area and the general
> software industry.  There are so few junior job postings.  Most are  
> for 3-5
> years or more.  Yet, how do you get those 3-5 years without year  
> 1!  Yes, I
> have 3-5 years experience, but I think we all are doing ourselves a
> disservice by not hiring junior folks.  If you're out there hiring,  
> try to
> consider a junior position, even as a contractor position if  
> necessary.
> It'll make your senior folks happier, as they can grow in their  
> management
> skills plus ensure that when you really do need someone with  
> experience,
> they're out there to find. Not to mention that in a few years,  
> you'll have
> that senior person who you KNOW can do the job.

FWIW... Involution is looking for both senior and junior level folks,  
although we only post officially for senior level positions. Just be  
ready to reset your expectations on salary and such. And be ready to  
get tossed into the water cold without easing in. The market moves so  
fast these days that people look for senior positions because the  
timelines have gotten out of control on the speed to market issue.

But you guys are right. It's definitely a big problem and needs to be  
corrected in our industry.

-- 
Andrei Herasimchuk

Principal, Involution Studios
innovating the digital world

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