**David said "Let's just say I disagree and arrogantly so, admittedly. Since
I'm no longer a board member, or vice-president, I've been taking a more
free position with my language on this list."

I am not certain that anything I say will influence your thinking on this
subject.

**David said: "I very unhumbly believe that IxD is the future of all UCD.
not usability, not IA, not visual design, not industrial design, no HCI
research. it is why I have been passionately focused on IxDA for almost 5
years."

Actually, if you had read my points more carefully you would see that I
agree with you. Take another look at the point that reads "Think Big." But
with respect, Dave, I have also been in interaction design a long time -- in
my case for over 30 years -- and I am as passionate about it now as I was 30
years ago. I have lived though a lot of stuff trying to make the case that
what we do matters and also invested a lot of time in helping organizations
grow.

I have a lot to say about the relationship of Ix and its relationship to the
other elements you mention above. What is frustrating is that it seems
almost impossible to make progress because we keep getting dragged into the
same, old, pointless argument. I passionately agree that IxD is the future
of all UCD. But I also believe that any design that is not usable is
useless. Any design that does not present content well is also pretty much
useless. And HCI research has a lot to offer designers. My goal is to
integrate all of these elements. In that process, IxD will become stronger,
not weaker.

**David said: "Understanding the complex field surrounding interaction as a
distinct practice and design discipline is my own personal mission and the
one that I hope IxDA continues to be about. To do so IxDA needs to stay
focused on differentiating, defining, advancing and advocating IxD."

Great. I think that is right except perhaps for the word "differentiating."
I would replace it with "integrating." But as Robert Frost said "that has
made all the difference." 

With respect, Dave, I don't think you are really hearing what I am saying. I
have come to that conclusion because your rebuttals to my position seem (to
me) to be missing the point I am trying to make. Perhaps I am not being
clear. If so, I apologize.

I believe you are fighting the wrong battle. What I find dispiriting about
that is that I support a lot of your basic ideas. But you are, IMO, going a
bit too far and not listening quite hard enough.

I appreciate your energy and insight. Although I consider myself a seasoned
designer, I have learned a lot from the people on this list. As an older
designer, I run the risk of staying focused in yesterday. Connecting with
people on this list helps me understand current thinking, passion and
issues. I thank you all for that. By the same token, being a younger
designer means that you may not yet have had all the experiences that have
led me to my current conclusions. 

Again, I want to thank you for having worked to create this group and for
all you put into the conference. That has made a difference to me.

I guess that I will leave it to others to decide if what I am saying has
value.

Best,

Charlie



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