ya know that is a good question. B/c it was on the yahoo group and not on dreamhost at that time, the archives live there. I don't think they got incorporated into the database. I have them (of course) in my outlook.
Jeff, is there any way for us to get those early conversations BACK into the database. Also, we have the early "workgroup" conversations which led to our existing database. that is a dreamhost list, so maybe that one can be brought in line. BTW, the architect vs. designer conversation hasn't actually come up all that much on this list. THANK G-D! It hurts more than PC vs. Mac. ;-) - dave On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Jared Spool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2008, at 8:44 AM, dave malouf wrote: > >> Wow! it's 2003 all over again. Tog's original post that inspired >> this organization called on us to be "architects". our entire first >> 6 months of discussions on this list was about why we are designers >> and not architects. ;-) >> >> I refuse to repeat 6 months of ideas that I feel haven't changed and >> I think Seth's look at this is as a non-designer looking in and >> doesn't really understand that there is a long and important legacy >> connecting our work to design and not to architecture, a term which >> actually has been coopted adn ruined by engineering and other >> technologist, who have taken a sub-discipline of design and have >> created a bastardization to help make themselves feel more >> self-important with actually adding little or no further value. >> >> Now I understand that the people see design as "look & feel", but >> it is a worthy and important goal for us to evangelize a much more >> accurate and broader and historical vision of design as being so much >> more. > > Just a thought: > > Are those first 6 months of ideas documented anywhere so those who are new > to the field can have the benefit of the thinking behind it? > > Otherwise we're doomed to revisit this over and over and over and over and > over.... > > Jared > > > -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
