Hey folks,

Note that there's also now an LFN wiki for proposing sessions to the
Mon/Tues cross-community track.

https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/LFN+Developer+Forum+Session+Proposals

Thanks,
Daniel

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:04 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Please note that there is a wiki online for the Fluorine DDF talks
> proposals:
>
> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum
>
> A few of you have already proposed some talks there - just bringing it to
> the attention of other folks. As noted by Daniel below - as well as in my
> TSC meeting minutes, the DDF will be on the Sunday March 25 - with a room
> reserved for 30 people.
>
> - Abhijit
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Daniel Farrell <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [OpenDaylight Discuss] Clarifying the plan
> for developer gathering at ONS
> To: Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
> Cc: Phil Robb <[email protected]>, tsc <[email protected]>,
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>
>
> Thanks for joining the TSC call today and providing a good, clear solution.
>
> In summary, the DDF will be held Sunday before ONS. We have a room for 30
> people reserved. The XCI event will also happen that day, with a different
> room for 15 people. The cross-community developer event will happen
> Monday/Tuesday as previously described. If DDF talks need to continue
> during those days we will have space, but we should also plan to
> participate in cross-community talks. Contributors will get a 50% discount
> to ONS (so ~$600 for the early bird rate), which will cover everything
> through Thursday. Phil strongly encourages us not to only attend Sunday but
> to stick around for the rest of the event, to better participate in the
> broader LFN community. If the price is still an issue, reach out to him
> directly.
>
> Phil will follow up with a link to register at the discounted price and to
> the new LFN wiki where we can propose Monday/Tuesday talks.
>
> I created a wiki for our DDF talks. Please start proposing them.
>
> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum
>
> Thanks again for helping us find a solution Phil and events staff.
>
> Daniel
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Phil !
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Phil Robb <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Abhijit, ODL TSC, and other community members:
>>>
>>> I've been following this thread and fully appreciate the issues my email
>>> has caused.  I'be been working to provide better alternatives for the ODL
>>> community event and I will be on the TSC call to both let everyone know
>>> what I've been able to work out along with some more context for my
>>> original mail.
>>>
>>> I look forward to talking with everyone at the TSC meeting.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Casey & Phil,
>>>>
>>>> There was a request yesterday from Luis, Daniel, etc. for someone from
>>>> LF events or with some authority on this to join the next TSC call.
>>>> Will someone from the LF events join tomorrow's TSC call?
>>>>
>>>> As already discussed, if we do the DDF on March 26-27 (Monday-Tuesday),
>>>> it will be quite burdensome for developers wanting to attend only the DDF
>>>> to have to pay the full price of the ONS. This will drive down the DDF
>>>> participation. I believe DDF participation can lead to future code
>>>> contributions. I would think at this time LFN would want to encourage more
>>>> participation/code contributions from developers - and want more DDF
>>>> participation. Hence it would be good to find a way on this issue.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Abhijit
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Casey Cain <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We can discuss in more detail our options during the TSC meeting
>>>>> tomorrow.  However, I've been informed that attendance to the Monday /
>>>>> Tuesday event will require registration for ONS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Casey
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Farrell <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for helping to clarify things Phil. In addition to Abhijit's
>>>>>> question about cost, a few more questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Will the XCI event still be held Sunday?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. It seems like the Monday/Tuesday event will only be 1.5 days. I'm
>>>>>> concerned that's insufficient for an ODL DDF by itself, and especially
>>>>>> doesn't allow time for cross-project talks (which I think are 
>>>>>> increasingly
>>>>>> important). Maybe we can have a room for continuing DDF talks during ONS?
>>>>>> Or I suppose we can just informally conquer a public space. We have a
>>>>>> substantial number of devs who would want to be home before Good Friday,
>>>>>> but missing the tail end isn't so bad, and we're balancing tough options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Especially if we do something during ONS, is there any way we can
>>>>>> imagine to make the cost more reasonable for developers? Like a Dev Pass
>>>>>> that only lets you into a small subset of the rooms? Or $5-10 voucher
>>>>>> per-patch? As it stands it doesn't seem like many of our devs will attend
>>>>>> ONS-proper, which is a shame and bad for ODL/LFN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 7:43 PM Phil Robb <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello OpenDaylight developers and TSC members:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to provide some clarity on the activities and timeframe we
>>>>>>> have to gather during ONS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The developer event during ONS week will be from 8:00am to 6:00pm on
>>>>>>> Monday, March 26th, and 8:00am to 12:00 noon on Tuesday, March 27th.  
>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>> requests we have received we had also been investigating the 
>>>>>>> possibility to
>>>>>>> extend the event into the proceeding Sunday, but we've determined that 
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> an extension is not going to be possible.  That said, we still have the
>>>>>>> Monday/Tuesday time for formal presentations, as well as break out rooms
>>>>>>> and a developer lounge for continued meetings, discussions, and hacking 
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> ONS during the rest of the week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As we've mentioned before, we would like to take advantage of the
>>>>>>> fact that the communities from the different projects will be in the 
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> place at the same time.  As such, we encourage you to propose sessions 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> can further cross-collaboration among the LFN projects.  We also 
>>>>>>> recognize
>>>>>>> that there are plenty of project-specific topics that need to be
>>>>>>> discussed.  Please also propose those sessions for this event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the LFN formally announced today, we are working to get the LFN
>>>>>>> wiki site up and running as quickly as possible.  One of the first uses 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> this site will be the location for submitting your proposed talks and
>>>>>>> presentations for the developer event at ONS.  We apologize that it is 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> up quite yet but it will be up within the next 2 or 3 days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once the site is up, Ray Paik (cc-ed) will send out an email to all
>>>>>>> communities on where to find it along with a call-for-presentations for 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> to post your discussion and presentation topics.  Between February 9th 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> February 15th, we will convene the TAC representatives from the LFN
>>>>>>> projects to review the submissions and to form an outline/framework for 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> developer event, giving time for cross-project discussions,
>>>>>>> project-specific sessions, and a TAC meeting.  From there, we will work
>>>>>>> with each project TSC to prioritize project-specific sessions during the
>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For OpenDaylight in particular, I know we've been trying to fit the
>>>>>>> Florine DDF on that proceeding Sunday.  However, this won't be possible.
>>>>>>> Given this, we have a number of alternatives:
>>>>>>> 1) We could hold the DDF during the Monday and Tuesday of ONS.  I
>>>>>>> know that we had said we wanted this time for cross-project discussions,
>>>>>>> but if the ODL TSC prefers to hold the DDF at this time, we will find a
>>>>>>> room for it and ODL can stay focused there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) We can move the Florine DDF to a different time and place,
>>>>>>> perhaps holding it in a similar fashion to the Oxygen DDF at a member
>>>>>>> company facility in the bay area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Hold a virtual DDF similar to our other virtual developer events
>>>>>>> we've done in the past.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My apologies for the inconvenience this causes.  If you have
>>>>>>> additional questions, please reach out to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Phil Robb
>>>>>>> VP Operations - Networking & Orchestration, The Linux Foundation
>>>>>>> (O) 970-229-5949 <(970)%20229-5949>
>>>>>>> (M) 970-420-4292 <(970)%20420-4292>
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