On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for noting it Daniel. > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:52 AM Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hey folks, >> >> Note that there's also now an LFN wiki for proposing sessions to the >> Mon/Tues cross-community track. >> >> https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/LFN+Developer+ >> Forum+Session+Proposals >> > Erm, so ... what is suitable for the ODL Fluorine Developer Forum DDF and what fits the LFN Cross Community Developer Forum? I'm guessing ODL internal stuff (project level presentations and planning sessions and the like) are ODL DDF and "everything else" (?) is LFN cross-community? > Thanks, >> Daniel >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:04 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Please note that there is a wiki online for the Fluorine DDF talks >>> proposals: >>> >>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum >>> >>> A few of you have already proposed some talks there - just bringing it >>> to the attention of other folks. As noted by Daniel below - as well as in >>> my TSC meeting minutes, the DDF will be on the Sunday March 25 - with a >>> room reserved for 30 people. >>> >>> - Abhijit >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> >>> Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:15 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [OpenDaylight Discuss] Clarifying the >>> plan for developer gathering at ONS >>> To: Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Phil Robb <[email protected]>, tsc < >>> [email protected]>, "[email protected]" < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for joining the TSC call today and providing a good, clear >>> solution. >>> >>> In summary, the DDF will be held Sunday before ONS. We have a room for >>> 30 people reserved. The XCI event will also happen that day, with a >>> different room for 15 people. The cross-community developer event will >>> happen Monday/Tuesday as previously described. If DDF talks need to >>> continue during those days we will have space, but we should also plan to >>> participate in cross-community talks. Contributors will get a 50% discount >>> to ONS (so ~$600 for the early bird rate), which will cover everything >>> through Thursday. Phil strongly encourages us not to only attend Sunday but >>> to stick around for the rest of the event, to better participate in the >>> broader LFN community. If the price is still an issue, reach out to him >>> directly. >>> >>> Phil will follow up with a link to register at the discounted price and >>> to the new LFN wiki where we can propose Monday/Tuesday talks. >>> >>> I created a wiki for our DDF talks. Please start proposing them. >>> >>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum >>> >>> Thanks again for helping us find a solution Phil and events staff. >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Phil ! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Phil Robb <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Abhijit, ODL TSC, and other community members: >>>>> >>>>> I've been following this thread and fully appreciate the issues my >>>>> email has caused. I'be been working to provide better alternatives for >>>>> the >>>>> ODL community event and I will be on the TSC call to both let everyone >>>>> know >>>>> what I've been able to work out along with some more context for my >>>>> original mail. >>>>> >>>>> I look forward to talking with everyone at the TSC meeting. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Phil. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Casey & Phil, >>>>>> >>>>>> There was a request yesterday from Luis, Daniel, etc. for someone >>>>>> from LF events or with some authority on this to join the next TSC call. >>>>>> Will someone from the LF events join tomorrow's TSC call? >>>>>> >>>>>> As already discussed, if we do the DDF on March 26-27 >>>>>> (Monday-Tuesday), it will be quite burdensome for developers wanting to >>>>>> attend only the DDF to have to pay the full price of the ONS. This will >>>>>> drive down the DDF participation. I believe DDF participation can lead to >>>>>> future code contributions. I would think at this time LFN would want to >>>>>> encourage more participation/code contributions from developers - and >>>>>> want >>>>>> more DDF participation. Hence it would be good to find a way on this >>>>>> issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Abhijit >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Casey Cain < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We can discuss in more detail our options during the TSC meeting >>>>>>> tomorrow. However, I've been informed that attendance to the Monday / >>>>>>> Tuesday event will require registration for ONS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Casey >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Farrell <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for helping to clarify things Phil. In addition to Abhijit's >>>>>>>> question about cost, a few more questions: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Will the XCI event still be held Sunday? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. It seems like the Monday/Tuesday event will only be 1.5 days. >>>>>>>> I'm concerned that's insufficient for an ODL DDF by itself, and >>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>> doesn't allow time for cross-project talks (which I think are >>>>>>>> increasingly >>>>>>>> important). Maybe we can have a room for continuing DDF talks during >>>>>>>> ONS? >>>>>>>> Or I suppose we can just informally conquer a public space. We have a >>>>>>>> substantial number of devs who would want to be home before Good >>>>>>>> Friday, >>>>>>>> but missing the tail end isn't so bad, and we're balancing tough >>>>>>>> options. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. Especially if we do something during ONS, is there any way we >>>>>>>> can imagine to make the cost more reasonable for developers? Like a Dev >>>>>>>> Pass that only lets you into a small subset of the rooms? Or $5-10 >>>>>>>> voucher >>>>>>>> per-patch? As it stands it doesn't seem like many of our devs will >>>>>>>> attend >>>>>>>> ONS-proper, which is a shame and bad for ODL/LFN. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 7:43 PM Phil Robb <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello OpenDaylight developers and TSC members: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wanted to provide some clarity on the activities and timeframe >>>>>>>>> we have to gather during ONS. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The developer event during ONS week will be from 8:00am to 6:00pm >>>>>>>>> on Monday, March 26th, and 8:00am to 12:00 noon on Tuesday, March >>>>>>>>> 27th. >>>>>>>>> From requests we have received we had also been investigating the >>>>>>>>> possibility to extend the event into the proceeding Sunday, but we've >>>>>>>>> determined that such an extension is not going to be possible. That >>>>>>>>> said, >>>>>>>>> we still have the Monday/Tuesday time for formal presentations, as >>>>>>>>> well as >>>>>>>>> break out rooms and a developer lounge for continued meetings, >>>>>>>>> discussions, >>>>>>>>> and hacking at ONS during the rest of the week. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As we've mentioned before, we would like to take advantage of the >>>>>>>>> fact that the communities from the different projects will be in the >>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>> place at the same time. As such, we encourage you to propose >>>>>>>>> sessions that >>>>>>>>> can further cross-collaboration among the LFN projects. We also >>>>>>>>> recognize >>>>>>>>> that there are plenty of project-specific topics that need to be >>>>>>>>> discussed. Please also propose those sessions for this event. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With the LFN formally announced today, we are working to get the >>>>>>>>> LFN wiki site up and running as quickly as possible. One of the >>>>>>>>> first uses >>>>>>>>> for this site will be the location for submitting your proposed talks >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> presentations for the developer event at ONS. We apologize that it >>>>>>>>> is not >>>>>>>>> up quite yet but it will be up within the next 2 or 3 days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Once the site is up, Ray Paik (cc-ed) will send out an email to >>>>>>>>> all communities on where to find it along with a >>>>>>>>> call-for-presentations for >>>>>>>>> you to post your discussion and presentation topics. Between >>>>>>>>> February 9th >>>>>>>>> and February 15th, we will convene the TAC representatives from the >>>>>>>>> LFN >>>>>>>>> projects to review the submissions and to form an outline/framework >>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>> developer event, giving time for cross-project discussions, >>>>>>>>> project-specific sessions, and a TAC meeting. From there, we will >>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>> with each project TSC to prioritize project-specific sessions during >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> event. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For OpenDaylight in particular, I know we've been trying to fit >>>>>>>>> the Florine DDF on that proceeding Sunday. However, this won't be >>>>>>>>> possible. Given this, we have a number of alternatives: >>>>>>>>> 1) We could hold the DDF during the Monday and Tuesday of ONS. I >>>>>>>>> know that we had said we wanted this time for cross-project >>>>>>>>> discussions, >>>>>>>>> but if the ODL TSC prefers to hold the DDF at this time, we will find >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> room for it and ODL can stay focused there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2) We can move the Florine DDF to a different time and place, >>>>>>>>> perhaps holding it in a similar fashion to the Oxygen DDF at a member >>>>>>>>> company facility in the bay area. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3) Hold a virtual DDF similar to our other virtual developer >>>>>>>>> events we've done in the past. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My apologies for the inconvenience this causes. If you have >>>>>>>>> additional questions, please reach out to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil. >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Phil Robb >>>>>>>>> VP Operations - Networking & Orchestration, The Linux Foundation >>>>>>>>> (O) 970-229-5949 <(970)%20229-5949> >>>>>>>>> (M) 970-420-4292 <(970)%20420-4292> >>>>>>>>> Skype: Phil.Robb >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> TSC mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Casey Cain >>>>>>> Technical Program Manager >>>>>>> Linux Foundation >>>>>>> _________________ >>>>>>> IRC - CaseyODL >>>>>>> Skype - wrathwolfk >>>>>>> WeChat - okaru6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> TSC mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> TSC mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Phil Robb >>>>> VP Operations - Networking & Orchestration, The Linux Foundation >>>>> (O) 970-229-5949 <(970)%20229-5949> >>>>> (M) 970-420-4292 <(970)%20420-4292> >>>>> Skype: Phil.Robb >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TSC mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TSC mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >
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