Thanks for noting it Daniel.

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:52 AM Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Note that there's also now an LFN wiki for proposing sessions to the
> Mon/Tues cross-community track.
>
>
> https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/LFN+Developer+Forum+Session+Proposals
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:04 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Please note that there is a wiki online for the Fluorine DDF talks
>> proposals:
>>
>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum
>>
>> A few of you have already proposed some talks there - just bringing it to
>> the attention of other folks. As noted by Daniel below - as well as in my
>> TSC meeting minutes, the DDF will be on the Sunday March 25 - with a room
>> reserved for 30 people.
>>
>> - Abhijit
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Daniel Farrell <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [OpenDaylight Discuss] Clarifying the
>> plan for developer gathering at ONS
>> To: Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Phil Robb <[email protected]>, tsc <
>> [email protected]>, "[email protected]" <
>> [email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for joining the TSC call today and providing a good, clear
>> solution.
>>
>> In summary, the DDF will be held Sunday before ONS. We have a room for 30
>> people reserved. The XCI event will also happen that day, with a different
>> room for 15 people. The cross-community developer event will happen
>> Monday/Tuesday as previously described. If DDF talks need to continue
>> during those days we will have space, but we should also plan to
>> participate in cross-community talks. Contributors will get a 50% discount
>> to ONS (so ~$600 for the early bird rate), which will cover everything
>> through Thursday. Phil strongly encourages us not to only attend Sunday but
>> to stick around for the rest of the event, to better participate in the
>> broader LFN community. If the price is still an issue, reach out to him
>> directly.
>>
>> Phil will follow up with a link to register at the discounted price and
>> to the new LFN wiki where we can propose Monday/Tuesday talks.
>>
>> I created a wiki for our DDF talks. Please start proposing them.
>>
>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum
>>
>> Thanks again for helping us find a solution Phil and events staff.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Phil !
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Phil Robb <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Abhijit, ODL TSC, and other community members:
>>>>
>>>> I've been following this thread and fully appreciate the issues my
>>>> email has caused.  I'be been working to provide better alternatives for the
>>>> ODL community event and I will be on the TSC call to both let everyone know
>>>> what I've been able to work out along with some more context for my
>>>> original mail.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to talking with everyone at the TSC meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Phil.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Casey & Phil,
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a request yesterday from Luis, Daniel, etc. for someone
>>>>> from LF events or with some authority on this to join the next TSC call.
>>>>> Will someone from the LF events join tomorrow's TSC call?
>>>>>
>>>>> As already discussed, if we do the DDF on March 26-27
>>>>> (Monday-Tuesday), it will be quite burdensome for developers wanting to
>>>>> attend only the DDF to have to pay the full price of the ONS. This will
>>>>> drive down the DDF participation. I believe DDF participation can lead to
>>>>> future code contributions. I would think at this time LFN would want to
>>>>> encourage more participation/code contributions from developers - and want
>>>>> more DDF participation. Hence it would be good to find a way on this 
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Abhijit
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Casey Cain <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We can discuss in more detail our options during the TSC meeting
>>>>>> tomorrow.  However, I've been informed that attendance to the Monday /
>>>>>> Tuesday event will require registration for ONS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Casey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Farrell <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for helping to clarify things Phil. In addition to Abhijit's
>>>>>>> question about cost, a few more questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Will the XCI event still be held Sunday?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. It seems like the Monday/Tuesday event will only be 1.5 days. I'm
>>>>>>> concerned that's insufficient for an ODL DDF by itself, and especially
>>>>>>> doesn't allow time for cross-project talks (which I think are 
>>>>>>> increasingly
>>>>>>> important). Maybe we can have a room for continuing DDF talks during 
>>>>>>> ONS?
>>>>>>> Or I suppose we can just informally conquer a public space. We have a
>>>>>>> substantial number of devs who would want to be home before Good Friday,
>>>>>>> but missing the tail end isn't so bad, and we're balancing tough 
>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Especially if we do something during ONS, is there any way we can
>>>>>>> imagine to make the cost more reasonable for developers? Like a Dev Pass
>>>>>>> that only lets you into a small subset of the rooms? Or $5-10 voucher
>>>>>>> per-patch? As it stands it doesn't seem like many of our devs will 
>>>>>>> attend
>>>>>>> ONS-proper, which is a shame and bad for ODL/LFN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 7:43 PM Phil Robb <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello OpenDaylight developers and TSC members:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to provide some clarity on the activities and timeframe we
>>>>>>>> have to gather during ONS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The developer event during ONS week will be from 8:00am to 6:00pm
>>>>>>>> on Monday, March 26th, and 8:00am to 12:00 noon on Tuesday, March 27th.
>>>>>>>> From requests we have received we had also been investigating the
>>>>>>>> possibility to extend the event into the proceeding Sunday, but we've
>>>>>>>> determined that such an extension is not going to be possible.  That 
>>>>>>>> said,
>>>>>>>> we still have the Monday/Tuesday time for formal presentations, as 
>>>>>>>> well as
>>>>>>>> break out rooms and a developer lounge for continued meetings, 
>>>>>>>> discussions,
>>>>>>>> and hacking at ONS during the rest of the week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As we've mentioned before, we would like to take advantage of the
>>>>>>>> fact that the communities from the different projects will be in the 
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> place at the same time.  As such, we encourage you to propose sessions 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> can further cross-collaboration among the LFN projects.  We also 
>>>>>>>> recognize
>>>>>>>> that there are plenty of project-specific topics that need to be
>>>>>>>> discussed.  Please also propose those sessions for this event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the LFN formally announced today, we are working to get the
>>>>>>>> LFN wiki site up and running as quickly as possible.  One of the first 
>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>> for this site will be the location for submitting your proposed talks 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> presentations for the developer event at ONS.  We apologize that it is 
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> up quite yet but it will be up within the next 2 or 3 days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once the site is up, Ray Paik (cc-ed) will send out an email to all
>>>>>>>> communities on where to find it along with a call-for-presentations 
>>>>>>>> for you
>>>>>>>> to post your discussion and presentation topics.  Between February 9th 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> February 15th, we will convene the TAC representatives from the LFN
>>>>>>>> projects to review the submissions and to form an outline/framework 
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>> developer event, giving time for cross-project discussions,
>>>>>>>> project-specific sessions, and a TAC meeting.  From there, we will work
>>>>>>>> with each project TSC to prioritize project-specific sessions during 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For OpenDaylight in particular, I know we've been trying to fit the
>>>>>>>> Florine DDF on that proceeding Sunday.  However, this won't be 
>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>> Given this, we have a number of alternatives:
>>>>>>>> 1) We could hold the DDF during the Monday and Tuesday of ONS.  I
>>>>>>>> know that we had said we wanted this time for cross-project 
>>>>>>>> discussions,
>>>>>>>> but if the ODL TSC prefers to hold the DDF at this time, we will find a
>>>>>>>> room for it and ODL can stay focused there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) We can move the Florine DDF to a different time and place,
>>>>>>>> perhaps holding it in a similar fashion to the Oxygen DDF at a member
>>>>>>>> company facility in the bay area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) Hold a virtual DDF similar to our other virtual developer events
>>>>>>>> we've done in the past.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My apologies for the inconvenience this causes.  If you have
>>>>>>>> additional questions, please reach out to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Phil Robb
>>>>>>>> VP Operations - Networking & Orchestration, The Linux Foundation
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