Yes - more or less. I am assuming "everything else" means at least somewhat cross community related.
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Michael Vorburger <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks for noting it Daniel. >> >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:52 AM Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey folks, >>> >>> Note that there's also now an LFN wiki for proposing sessions to the >>> Mon/Tues cross-community track. >>> >>> https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/LFN+Developer+Forum >>> +Session+Proposals >>> >> > Erm, so ... what is suitable for the ODL Fluorine Developer Forum DDF and > what fits the LFN Cross Community Developer Forum? > > I'm guessing ODL internal stuff (project level presentations and planning > sessions and the like) are ODL DDF and "everything else" (?) is LFN > cross-community? > > >> Thanks, >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:04 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Please note that there is a wiki online for the Fluorine DDF talks >>>> proposals: >>>> >>>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum >>>> >>>> A few of you have already proposed some talks there - just bringing it >>>> to the attention of other folks. As noted by Daniel below - as well as in >>>> my TSC meeting minutes, the DDF will be on the Sunday March 25 - with a >>>> room reserved for 30 people. >>>> >>>> - Abhijit >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 1:15 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [OpenDaylight TSC] [OpenDaylight Discuss] Clarifying the >>>> plan for developer gathering at ONS >>>> To: Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: Phil Robb <[email protected]>, tsc < >>>> [email protected]>, "[email protected]" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for joining the TSC call today and providing a good, clear >>>> solution. >>>> >>>> In summary, the DDF will be held Sunday before ONS. We have a room for >>>> 30 people reserved. The XCI event will also happen that day, with a >>>> different room for 15 people. The cross-community developer event will >>>> happen Monday/Tuesday as previously described. If DDF talks need to >>>> continue during those days we will have space, but we should also plan to >>>> participate in cross-community talks. Contributors will get a 50% discount >>>> to ONS (so ~$600 for the early bird rate), which will cover everything >>>> through Thursday. Phil strongly encourages us not to only attend Sunday but >>>> to stick around for the rest of the event, to better participate in the >>>> broader LFN community. If the price is still an issue, reach out to him >>>> directly. >>>> >>>> Phil will follow up with a link to register at the discounted price and >>>> to the new LFN wiki where we can propose Monday/Tuesday talks. >>>> >>>> I created a wiki for our DDF talks. Please start proposing them. >>>> >>>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Fluorine_Dev_Forum >>>> >>>> Thanks again for helping us find a solution Phil and events staff. >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Phil ! >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Phil Robb <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Abhijit, ODL TSC, and other community members: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been following this thread and fully appreciate the issues my >>>>>> email has caused. I'be been working to provide better alternatives for >>>>>> the >>>>>> ODL community event and I will be on the TSC call to both let everyone >>>>>> know >>>>>> what I've been able to work out along with some more context for my >>>>>> original mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> I look forward to talking with everyone at the TSC meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Phil. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Abhijit Kumbhare < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Casey & Phil, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was a request yesterday from Luis, Daniel, etc. for someone >>>>>>> from LF events or with some authority on this to join the next TSC call. >>>>>>> Will someone from the LF events join tomorrow's TSC call? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As already discussed, if we do the DDF on March 26-27 >>>>>>> (Monday-Tuesday), it will be quite burdensome for developers wanting to >>>>>>> attend only the DDF to have to pay the full price of the ONS. This will >>>>>>> drive down the DDF participation. I believe DDF participation can lead >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> future code contributions. I would think at this time LFN would want to >>>>>>> encourage more participation/code contributions from developers - and >>>>>>> want >>>>>>> more DDF participation. Hence it would be good to find a way on this >>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Abhijit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Casey Cain < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We can discuss in more detail our options during the TSC meeting >>>>>>>> tomorrow. However, I've been informed that attendance to the Monday / >>>>>>>> Tuesday event will require registration for ONS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Casey >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Farrell < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for helping to clarify things Phil. In addition to >>>>>>>>> Abhijit's question about cost, a few more questions: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Will the XCI event still be held Sunday? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. It seems like the Monday/Tuesday event will only be 1.5 days. >>>>>>>>> I'm concerned that's insufficient for an ODL DDF by itself, and >>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>> doesn't allow time for cross-project talks (which I think are >>>>>>>>> increasingly >>>>>>>>> important). Maybe we can have a room for continuing DDF talks during >>>>>>>>> ONS? >>>>>>>>> Or I suppose we can just informally conquer a public space. We have a >>>>>>>>> substantial number of devs who would want to be home before Good >>>>>>>>> Friday, >>>>>>>>> but missing the tail end isn't so bad, and we're balancing tough >>>>>>>>> options. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. Especially if we do something during ONS, is there any way we >>>>>>>>> can imagine to make the cost more reasonable for developers? Like a >>>>>>>>> Dev >>>>>>>>> Pass that only lets you into a small subset of the rooms? Or $5-10 >>>>>>>>> voucher >>>>>>>>> per-patch? As it stands it doesn't seem like many of our devs will >>>>>>>>> attend >>>>>>>>> ONS-proper, which is a shame and bad for ODL/LFN. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 7:43 PM Phil Robb <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello OpenDaylight developers and TSC members: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wanted to provide some clarity on the activities and timeframe >>>>>>>>>> we have to gather during ONS. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The developer event during ONS week will be from 8:00am to 6:00pm >>>>>>>>>> on Monday, March 26th, and 8:00am to 12:00 noon on Tuesday, March >>>>>>>>>> 27th. >>>>>>>>>> From requests we have received we had also been investigating the >>>>>>>>>> possibility to extend the event into the proceeding Sunday, but we've >>>>>>>>>> determined that such an extension is not going to be possible. That >>>>>>>>>> said, >>>>>>>>>> we still have the Monday/Tuesday time for formal presentations, as >>>>>>>>>> well as >>>>>>>>>> break out rooms and a developer lounge for continued meetings, >>>>>>>>>> discussions, >>>>>>>>>> and hacking at ONS during the rest of the week. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As we've mentioned before, we would like to take advantage of the >>>>>>>>>> fact that the communities from the different projects will be in the >>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>> place at the same time. As such, we encourage you to propose >>>>>>>>>> sessions that >>>>>>>>>> can further cross-collaboration among the LFN projects. We also >>>>>>>>>> recognize >>>>>>>>>> that there are plenty of project-specific topics that need to be >>>>>>>>>> discussed. Please also propose those sessions for this event. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With the LFN formally announced today, we are working to get the >>>>>>>>>> LFN wiki site up and running as quickly as possible. One of the >>>>>>>>>> first uses >>>>>>>>>> for this site will be the location for submitting your proposed >>>>>>>>>> talks and >>>>>>>>>> presentations for the developer event at ONS. We apologize that it >>>>>>>>>> is not >>>>>>>>>> up quite yet but it will be up within the next 2 or 3 days. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Once the site is up, Ray Paik (cc-ed) will send out an email to >>>>>>>>>> all communities on where to find it along with a >>>>>>>>>> call-for-presentations for >>>>>>>>>> you to post your discussion and presentation topics. Between >>>>>>>>>> February 9th >>>>>>>>>> and February 15th, we will convene the TAC representatives from the >>>>>>>>>> LFN >>>>>>>>>> projects to review the submissions and to form an outline/framework >>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>> developer event, giving time for cross-project discussions, >>>>>>>>>> project-specific sessions, and a TAC meeting. From there, we will >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> with each project TSC to prioritize project-specific sessions during >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> event. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For OpenDaylight in particular, I know we've been trying to fit >>>>>>>>>> the Florine DDF on that proceeding Sunday. However, this won't be >>>>>>>>>> possible. Given this, we have a number of alternatives: >>>>>>>>>> 1) We could hold the DDF during the Monday and Tuesday of ONS. I >>>>>>>>>> know that we had said we wanted this time for cross-project >>>>>>>>>> discussions, >>>>>>>>>> but if the ODL TSC prefers to hold the DDF at this time, we will >>>>>>>>>> find a >>>>>>>>>> room for it and ODL can stay focused there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2) We can move the Florine DDF to a different time and place, >>>>>>>>>> perhaps holding it in a similar fashion to the Oxygen DDF at a member >>>>>>>>>> company facility in the bay area. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3) Hold a virtual DDF similar to our other virtual developer >>>>>>>>>> events we've done in the past. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the inconvenience this causes. If you have >>>>>>>>>> additional questions, please reach out to me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Phil. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Phil Robb >>>>>>>>>> VP Operations - Networking & Orchestration, The Linux Foundation >>>>>>>>>> (O) 970-229-5949 <(970)%20229-5949> >>>>>>>>>> (M) 970-420-4292 <(970)%20420-4292> >>>>>>>>>> Skype: Phil.Robb >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> TSC mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Casey Cain >>>>>>>> Technical Program Manager >>>>>>>> Linux Foundation >>>>>>>> _________________ >>>>>>>> IRC - CaseyODL >>>>>>>> Skype - wrathwolfk >>>>>>>> WeChat - okaru6 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> TSC mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> TSC mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Phil Robb >>>>>> VP Operations - Networking & Orchestration, The Linux Foundation >>>>>> (O) 970-229-5949 <(970)%20229-5949> >>>>>> (M) 970-420-4292 <(970)%20420-4292> >>>>>> Skype: Phil.Robb >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TSC mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TSC mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >
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