OK, let's hope that the space-providing difference is so.

To your latter point, I would like to re-phrase my idea as: "Wouldn't it be
cool if more organizations were structured & followed the rules of a
hacker-space? Here's NMM for example. How do we make it happen?


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> The patience comment was more aimed at people who are conflicted with
> what SkullSpace is about or what it is becoming. I think our core
> beliefs will follow us to our new place, but our organisation is
> definitely poised for change.
>
> I've experienced the kind of "drop-in" office setting NMM is hoping to
> create - I've used them in NYC. This is a service that will be
> appreciated by the people who need that kind of environment, but I
> think in the long-term that the membership to something like this will
> be more occasional than anything. Did you know there's also drop-in
> office space at Portage & Main? I don't know the company name, but for
> a cheap price you get a small room with a secretary-manned phone and
> front desk. NMM is joining the ranks of the drop-in office world and
> that's great, but it's not what SkullSpace is about at all. I think
> this is just one of the clear differences between an org like NMM and
> SkSp.
>
> ~Justin
>
> On 2 November 2012 13:38, Dan Bernardić <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks Justin,
> >
> > I don't know whether something I wrote caused you to ask for
> > patience...perhaps my comment about switching from Skull- to Co-work-
> space?
> >
> > I'm just pointing out that now we are in direct competition with them
> more
> > or less with regard to the space aspect if we continue exactly in the
> same
> > direction. In at least a few of the rooms. And we don't even know how
> many
> > of the rooms we have will be unique.
> >
> > I guess there is a distinguishing characteristic of what a SkullSpace
> member
> > needs over what a New Media Member needs to the point that picking which
> > space to buy a membership for will be an obvious choice to most people.
> And
> > the rest can pay for both memberships anyway.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Patience with a budding organisation is the best thing I can ask for
> >> from you and similar-minded folk right now. SkullSpace has almost
> >> existed for two years, and for the past 1.5 years we have been
> >> growing, and learning how to run our group. The 125 Adelaide location
> >> was a good start, but now we're ready to move on to the next step in
> >> SkullSpace's journey.
> >>
> >> I think it's important that we maintain our own space - this is
> >> something that almost all members will agree on. And we're strong
> >> enough to be on our own. I encourage the idea of forming partnerships
> >> with similar organisations that can contribute to the overall growth
> >> of hacker-like and new-media-related groups in Winnipeg. It's always
> >> good to be on similar pages with others.
> >>
> >> So definitely I'd like to contact NMM in the coming months, and other
> >> groups, and see what we can start to do together, even if it's
> >> increased recognition!
> >>
> >> ~Justin
> >>
> >> On 2 November 2012 13:17, Dan Bernardić <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > I'd like to hear more about why you think it could be a good idea. Or
> is
> >> > there not one single good outcome you can brainstorm in this scenario?
> >> >
> >> > Not really interested in why you're worried it would be a bad idea -
> the
> >> > reasons to be afraid of trying something new out seem obvious to me.
> >> >
> >> > It's nice to have own space, but I really appreciate SkullSpace for
> more
> >> > than just the room. And when I need a space, I can just go to the NMM
> >> > office
> >> > from now on, and stop supporting SkullSpace.
> >> >
> >> > I mean, even from that point of view - competition - there might be
> >> > reasons
> >> > to explore how to evolve our community.
> >> >
> >> > And I'm not afraid. I don't think that not having a space for any
> period
> >> > of
> >> > time is a really bad thing. Just wait and see whether SkullSpace has a
> >> > worse
> >> > or a better space following the current troubles with the space. I
> >> > expect
> >> > that the community and organization will come out stronger and more
> >> > mature
> >> > from these growing pains.
> >> >
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