I can do all the wiring for the class room and comp areas. On 2013-03-27 4:09 PM, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ian, > > We were talking about running cat5 cable to the classroom and computer > work areas long before the security camera job came into full swing... > > In the past, people have demonstrated a desire for having a wired internet > hookup in these places. It would be beneficial. > > I'm not telling Colin he needs to do it, I'm asking what we need to do to > get the ball rolling to obtain the cable trays to start. Currently, we have > cat5 wiring running to the electrical bench and lounge via hanging wires - > something which your inspector friend brought up as a no-no. > > I think we can all appreciate how hard Colin works for the group. > > > On 27 March 2013 15:42, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm going to ask why these drops are needed? Given all the other things >> Colin is working on can we give this request a low priority? >> >> For the sake of Colin's sanity let's balance some of these requests in >> terms of priority. >> >> Let me put this another way. Until cameras and access control is sorted >> out, would it not be reasonable to let him finish the jobs that are >> started? let's let him breath. Invoice his customers for the 100's of side >> jobs, etc he has completed over the past few months. >> >> Colin is working flat out and trying to run a business lets let him >> finish some jobs before asking more of the guy. >> >> >> Ian >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-03-27, at 15:33, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What is required to start getting proper cat5 network drops to the >> classroom? Colin, you mentioned we needed some cable tray system... who can >> we contact to supply us with this? >> >> High speed crow, perhaps? >> >> >> On 27 March 2013 08:45, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That is well in need of update for the new space... once I get the sksp >>> wiki password from my old laptop (VNC not working, need to troubleshoot >>> that) I'll put a notice on the page saying that. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Are you still maintaining the "Networking" wiki page? >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> On 2013-03-27 02:22, Colin Stanners wrote: >>>> > So that everyone knows what I'm working on and can give >>>> advice/comments. >>>> > (Also so that I don't forget the details of all these...) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Wiring (following the 'harder/longer job = add more spare wires' >>>> rule, and >>>> > using >>>> > white wires & white wire trays in corners so they're invisible to the >>>> > landlord) >>>> > ----------- >>>> > Done: 6x wires from above-bathrooms to downstairs door: >>>> > 1x cat5 + 1x 18/2: card access, doorbell >>>> > 2x cat5: outside front door camera and either inside >>>> front >>>> > door or street camera >>>> > 1x cat5 + 1x 18/2: spare wires (both above cameras >>>> can be >>>> > put on 1x cat5 to allow another spare). >>>> > >>>> > Done: 5x wires from server room to above-bathrooms: >>>> > 1x 22/4 wire: card access serial control, maybe >>>> patch to >>>> > fire panel >>>> > 2x cat5: to Sksp main network switch >>>> > 1x cat5: VGAoverCAT5 so projector can show security >>>> > cams/other video from VGA splitter >>>> > 1x cat5: 4x video feeds (2x front door, sksp2 door, >>>> spare) >>>> > >>>> > In progress: 3x wires from above-bathroom to end of classroom: >>>> > 1x cat5: was going to be for flag cameras but I may >>>> not >>>> > install this one now >>>> > 2x cat5: likely will connect back to main sksp switch >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Doorbell >>>> > ------------ >>>> > It works and causes an annoying sound to come from the box above the >>>> > bathrooms - later I'll wire it so the bell will always ring when the >>>> card >>>> > access >>>> > system's power is disconnected (may have enough battery power to last >>>> hours) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Cameras (old analog models running 12-24v power and video over cat5) >>>> > ------------- >>>> > 7: Both ends of the rear parking lot; back door (needs better mount); >>>> > elevator; >>>> > outside Sksp2 door; outside front door; and either inside front door >>>> or >>>> > street. >>>> > >>>> > A PC - either Zewwy's nice donated machine or the active card access >>>> PC - >>>> > running 2x analog 4-input cards (currently the crappy $10 ones that >>>> only do >>>> > 2 >>>> > FPS; possibly better ones later) and Zoneminder under Linux or >>>> BlueIris or >>>> > IspyConnect under Windows to capture video upon motion, also web >>>> viewing. >>>> > >>>> > I bought a 1x4 VGA splitter from Monoprice and eBay VGAoverCAT5 >>>> adapters* >>>> > so that the view from the security PC can be sent to the >>>> currently-unused >>>> > second VGA inputs on the projectors and can be easily brought up. Of >>>> course >>>> > any other signal can be sent to the projectors this way for >>>> presentations >>>> > etc. >>>> > >>>> > *I got the cheap $1 units that just couple the cables; not the $100 >>>> units >>>> > that include >>>> > filters, converting the unbalanced signals to differential ones to >>>> work >>>> > better over >>>> > twisted pair, and skew correction. I'll do homemade skew correction by >>>> > calculating >>>> > the length of the cat5 and measuring some pairs a bit longer so they >>>> all >>>> > 'match' >>>> > electrically. The length ratios of different pairs in cat5 are at the >>>> end >>>> > of the wikip page. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Projectors >>>> > ----------- >>>> > Sksp lounge: I'm getting the same MP stand so it can be roof-mounted >>>> too >>>> > >>>> > Classroom: need to install wire guide to make power/VGA runs nicer. >>>> If the >>>> > power >>>> > outlet over the bathroom happens soon it can feed the projector >>>> instead of >>>> > having >>>> > an ugly wire run down the side of the classroom wall. >>>> > >>>> > Both of these will have a line from the VGA splitter delivered over >>>> cat5, >>>> > as above. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Outside back wiring >>>> > ---------- >>>> > I installed a pipe in the back door frame so running wires is super >>>> easy. >>>> > Still >>>> > would be good to install a pipe or guy wire to allow a nicer run to >>>> top >>>> > level of >>>> > the fire escape and up to roof for later antennas (satellite, amateur >>>> > radio, etc). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Internet access and link to AW >>>> > ---------- >>>> > We're still dependent on the AW link for internet, VOI needs time to >>>> > install a >>>> > dedicated dish. >>>> > >>>> > We've had the hardware to upgrade the 10x4mbit AW link to 100x100mbit >>>> > since the beginning but it's quite a few hours to >>>> setup/configure/install. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Network Monitoring >>>> > ---------- >>>> > Having a Linux box running MRTG to show the traffic on all switch >>>> ports, >>>> > maybe >>>> > even local temperature and network rack power usage (measured at >>>> UPSes). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Doorbell and camera at outside loading dock door >>>> > ---------- >>>> > I'm considering this, does anything think it'll be useful? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Changing subnets >>>> > ------------- >>>> > Changing 192.168.1.x net to 172.16. would allow VPNing (from Linksys >>>> > routers etc). >>>> > Also maybe separate the 'sksp' and 'wifi / public / untrusted' on >>>> different >>>> > networks. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Card access fixes >>>> > ------------- >>>> > Would be nice to have a button upstairs to remote open downstairs door >>>> > (next to the sksp phone?) easy to do but need to run a wire there, or >>>> get >>>> > one >>>> > of those cheap ebay remote controls. Front door is missing a sensor >>>> that >>>> > lets the system know when the door is open because the door was >>>> closing >>>> > too tight against the frame for one to be installed (note hole in >>>> door), >>>> > fix soon. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Internal web page with links to all device web interfaces >>>> > ------------- >>>> > The one I did for AW is useful, will make one for Sksp one day >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Card access control PCs (both currently sitting in pieces) >>>> > ----------- >>>> > The Shuttle PCs (I always want 2 units with identical h/w, for easy >>>> backup) >>>> > have had issues for awhile due to bad capacitors that are a bigger >>>> job to >>>> > replace. We didn't have any identical PCs around sksp that I could >>>> use so >>>> > Ian >>>> > donated an old pair... that were from around the same era and turn >>>> out to >>>> > also >>>> > have bad capacitors. But those are better engineered (IBM) and easier >>>> to >>>> > recap. >>>> > >>>> > The Shuttle PCs have been partially recapped (mobos and PSUs) but >>>> once I >>>> > move to the IBMs they may appear in the pile of doom if anyone wants >>>> them. >>>> > >>>> > The fobs I've been giving out recently were PegJam ones that had been >>>> > activated when the PCs were still working... need to fix soon before >>>> I run >>>> > out. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Skullspace door: allowing landlord access and easy exit >>>> > --------- >>>> > I got a motion detector from eBay to allow auto-unlocking when >>>> > people get close to the door inside, but in the process of converting >>>> its >>>> > relay >>>> > from the positive terminal to connecting the negative terminal >>>> > I seem to have broken something since now it won't un-detect after >>>> boot. >>>> > >>>> > Door access for landlord/staff without keyfob: may be possible to >>>> move the >>>> > current deadbolt to the "main" doorknob to make it work, but this is >>>> > far on my to-do list right now, or $500 to get done by a locksmith. >>>> > This would also allow exit without needing to push a button - >>>> preferable. >>>> > >>>> > Another option people mentioned would be a keypad at the door that >>>> unlocks >>>> > the door - this is easy and cheap to do but I'd rather have the >>>> standard >>>> > key option. >>>> > >>>> > Door remote control: would be nice to have; need to buy a copy of >>>> Kantech >>>> > Entrapass SE ($300, but I may be able to get a bit cheaper price). I >>>> got >>>> > an old version of that software (Winpass64 from 2001) for $15 off >>>> ebay to >>>> > try it out but that software was *garbage* (Win3.1 interface, some >>>> kind of >>>> > constant database layer concurrency issues, horrible/illogical >>>> design, etc.) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Hooking access control to fire alarm for auto-release: >>>> > ------------- >>>> > Should be easily doable, I'll need to check if I can do it or if we >>>> need >>>> > someone with a license to come in and do it. >>>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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