Is there a crimper, or do you usually bring your own? On Mar 28, 2013 10:08 AM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]> wrote:
> There's lots of ends at Sksp, I'd welcome help running the cable, just > need to go over the plan with you to make sure it's well-hidden. For the > cables from the end of the classroom to above the bathrooms, white cable > will be mostly hidden in the cracks between the roof boards using > screwed-in zipties. > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Ken DeWitt < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I just need ends >> On 2013-03-27 6:26 PM, "Ian Trump" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Correct. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2013-03-27, at 18:15, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ian, >>> >>> I never brought up a cost or asked for money - the idea was that >>> perhaps we could get the necessary cable run equipment as a donation, >>> possibly from HSC. >>> >>> I thought that we can't expense anything to SkSp right now anyways, >>> unless it's approved? >>> >>> >>> On 27 March 2013 16:43, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Great Ken, way to step up very much appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just please be aware we have a minimal budget for this work. The >>>> priority right now is to save for the needed electrical work and allow >>>> Colin to complete his work on security and access control. I just >>>> looked at our finances. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The club is at 41 full member equivalents, we need 52 full >>>> member equivalents to be sustainable. We are loosing >>>> -$460 approximately per month, I am not counting donations above a >>>> 40.00 per full member equivalent, because they are donations - they >>>> may go away at any moment. Interestingly food and beverage sales manage to >>>> pay our monthly Hydro bill (more or less). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Current projections show "Death" on the 1'st of October 2014 if things >>>> remained the same, which they won't and we would rally and not letthat >>>> happen. That's 18 months to get 11 full member equivalentsand not loose >>>> anyone along this way. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When we get to 52 we can start looking at the nice to haves, right now >>>> we must focus on the must haves. The 3D printer was deemed a must have >>>> by the membership to attract more members. It was funded by the membership >>>> outside of regular dues and donations. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So, please let's be very careful about incurring expenses, we are very >>>> close to complete sustainability. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> PS; Donations of time and materials are so important to the club >>>> bottom line that stuff has a huge impact, a box of cable or stuff like that >>>> keeps the "Day of Doom" far away. All of you who have put in sweatequity, >>>> given equipment and "raw" IT material, >>>> or made financial contributions above the 40.00 have really sustained >>>> the club - on behalf of the board you have our sincere thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>> [email protected]] on behalf of Ken DeWitt [ >>>> [email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* March 27, 2013 16:23 >>>> *To:* Skull Space Discussion List >>>> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Skullspace2 Infrastructure update: >>>> network, security, oh my! >>>> >>>> I can do all the wiring for the class room and comp areas. >>>> On 2013-03-27 4:09 PM, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ian, >>>>> >>>>> We were talking about running cat5 cable to the classroom and >>>>> computer work areas long before the security camera job came into full >>>>> swing... >>>>> >>>>> In the past, people have demonstrated a desire for having a wired >>>>> internet hookup in these places. It would be beneficial. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not telling Colin he needs to do it, I'm asking what we need to >>>>> do to get the ball rolling to obtain the cable trays to start. Currently, >>>>> we have cat5 wiring running to the electrical bench and lounge via hanging >>>>> wires - something which your inspector friend brought up as a no-no. >>>>> >>>>> I think we can all appreciate how hard Colin works for the group. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 March 2013 15:42, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm going to ask why these drops are needed? Given all the other >>>>>> things Colin is working on can we give this request a low priority? >>>>>> >>>>>> For the sake of Colin's sanity let's balance some of these requests >>>>>> in terms of priority. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me put this another way. Until cameras and access control is >>>>>> sorted out, would it not be reasonable to let him finish the jobs that >>>>>> are >>>>>> started? let's let him breath. Invoice his customers for the 100's of >>>>>> side >>>>>> jobs, etc he has completed over the past few months. >>>>>> >>>>>> Colin is working flat out and trying to run a business lets let him >>>>>> finish some jobs before asking more of the guy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-03-27, at 15:33, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What is required to start getting proper cat5 network drops to the >>>>>> classroom? Colin, you mentioned we needed some cable tray system... who >>>>>> can >>>>>> we contact to supply us with this? >>>>>> >>>>>> High speed crow, perhaps? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 27 March 2013 08:45, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That is well in need of update for the new space... once I get the >>>>>>> sksp wiki password from my old laptop (VNC not working, need to >>>>>>> troubleshoot that) I'll put a notice on the page saying that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you still maintaining the "Networking" wiki page? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2013-03-27 02:22, Colin Stanners wrote: >>>>>>>> > So that everyone knows what I'm working on and can give >>>>>>>> advice/comments. >>>>>>>> > (Also so that I don't forget the details of all these...) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Wiring (following the 'harder/longer job = add more spare wires' >>>>>>>> rule, and >>>>>>>> > using >>>>>>>> > white wires & white wire trays in corners so they're invisible to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> > landlord) >>>>>>>> > ----------- >>>>>>>> > Done: 6x wires from above-bathrooms to downstairs door: >>>>>>>> > 1x cat5 + 1x 18/2: card access, doorbell >>>>>>>> > 2x cat5: outside front door camera and either >>>>>>>> inside front >>>>>>>> > door or street camera >>>>>>>> > 1x cat5 + 1x 18/2: spare wires (both above >>>>>>>> cameras can be >>>>>>>> > put on 1x cat5 to allow another spare). >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Done: 5x wires from server room to above-bathrooms: >>>>>>>> > 1x 22/4 wire: card access serial control, maybe >>>>>>>> patch to >>>>>>>> > fire panel >>>>>>>> > 2x cat5: to Sksp main network switch >>>>>>>> > 1x cat5: VGAoverCAT5 so projector can show >>>>>>>> security >>>>>>>> > cams/other video from VGA splitter >>>>>>>> > 1x cat5: 4x video feeds (2x front door, sksp2 >>>>>>>> door, spare) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > In progress: 3x wires from above-bathroom to end of >>>>>>>> classroom: >>>>>>>> > 1x cat5: was going to be for flag cameras but I >>>>>>>> may not >>>>>>>> > install this one now >>>>>>>> > 2x cat5: likely will connect back to main sksp >>>>>>>> switch >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Doorbell >>>>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>>>> > It works and causes an annoying sound to come from the box above >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> > bathrooms - later I'll wire it so the bell will always ring when >>>>>>>> the card >>>>>>>> > access >>>>>>>> > system's power is disconnected (may have enough battery power to >>>>>>>> last hours) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Cameras (old analog models running 12-24v power and video over >>>>>>>> cat5) >>>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>>> > 7: Both ends of the rear parking lot; back door (needs better >>>>>>>> mount); >>>>>>>> > elevator; >>>>>>>> > outside Sksp2 door; outside front door; and either inside front >>>>>>>> door or >>>>>>>> > street. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > A PC - either Zewwy's nice donated machine or the active card >>>>>>>> access PC - >>>>>>>> > running 2x analog 4-input cards (currently the crappy $10 ones >>>>>>>> that only do >>>>>>>> > 2 >>>>>>>> > FPS; possibly better ones later) and Zoneminder under Linux or >>>>>>>> BlueIris or >>>>>>>> > IspyConnect under Windows to capture video upon motion, also web >>>>>>>> viewing. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I bought a 1x4 VGA splitter from Monoprice and eBay VGAoverCAT5 >>>>>>>> adapters* >>>>>>>> > so that the view from the security PC can be sent to the >>>>>>>> currently-unused >>>>>>>> > second VGA inputs on the projectors and can be easily brought up. >>>>>>>> Of course >>>>>>>> > any other signal can be sent to the projectors this way for >>>>>>>> presentations >>>>>>>> > etc. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > *I got the cheap $1 units that just couple the cables; not the >>>>>>>> $100 units >>>>>>>> > that include >>>>>>>> > filters, converting the unbalanced signals to differential ones >>>>>>>> to work >>>>>>>> > better over >>>>>>>> > twisted pair, and skew correction. I'll do homemade skew >>>>>>>> correction by >>>>>>>> > calculating >>>>>>>> > the length of the cat5 and measuring some pairs a bit longer so >>>>>>>> they all >>>>>>>> > 'match' >>>>>>>> > electrically. The length ratios of different pairs in cat5 are at >>>>>>>> the end >>>>>>>> > of the wikip page. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Projectors >>>>>>>> > ----------- >>>>>>>> > Sksp lounge: I'm getting the same MP stand so it can be >>>>>>>> roof-mounted too >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Classroom: need to install wire guide to make power/VGA runs >>>>>>>> nicer. If the >>>>>>>> > power >>>>>>>> > outlet over the bathroom happens soon it can feed the projector >>>>>>>> instead of >>>>>>>> > having >>>>>>>> > an ugly wire run down the side of the classroom wall. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Both of these will have a line from the VGA splitter delivered >>>>>>>> over cat5, >>>>>>>> > as above. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Outside back wiring >>>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>>> > I installed a pipe in the back door frame so running wires is >>>>>>>> super easy. >>>>>>>> > Still >>>>>>>> > would be good to install a pipe or guy wire to allow a nicer run >>>>>>>> to top >>>>>>>> > level of >>>>>>>> > the fire escape and up to roof for later antennas (satellite, >>>>>>>> amateur >>>>>>>> > radio, etc). >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Internet access and link to AW >>>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>>> > We're still dependent on the AW link for internet, VOI needs time >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> > install a >>>>>>>> > dedicated dish. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > We've had the hardware to upgrade the 10x4mbit AW link to >>>>>>>> 100x100mbit >>>>>>>> > since the beginning but it's quite a few hours to >>>>>>>> setup/configure/install. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Network Monitoring >>>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>>> > Having a Linux box running MRTG to show the traffic on all switch >>>>>>>> ports, >>>>>>>> > maybe >>>>>>>> > even local temperature and network rack power usage (measured at >>>>>>>> UPSes). >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Doorbell and camera at outside loading dock door >>>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>>> > I'm considering this, does anything think it'll be useful? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Changing subnets >>>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>>> > Changing 192.168.1.x net to 172.16. would allow VPNing (from >>>>>>>> Linksys >>>>>>>> > routers etc). >>>>>>>> > Also maybe separate the 'sksp' and 'wifi / public / untrusted' on >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> > networks. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Card access fixes >>>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>>> > Would be nice to have a button upstairs to remote open downstairs >>>>>>>> door >>>>>>>> > (next to the sksp phone?) easy to do but need to run a wire >>>>>>>> there, or get >>>>>>>> > one >>>>>>>> > of those cheap ebay remote controls. Front door is missing a >>>>>>>> sensor that >>>>>>>> > lets the system know when the door is open because the door was >>>>>>>> closing >>>>>>>> > too tight against the frame for one to be installed (note hole in >>>>>>>> door), >>>>>>>> > fix soon. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Internal web page with links to all device web interfaces >>>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>>> > The one I did for AW is useful, will make one for Sksp one day >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Card access control PCs (both currently sitting in pieces) >>>>>>>> > ----------- >>>>>>>> > The Shuttle PCs (I always want 2 units with identical h/w, for >>>>>>>> easy backup) >>>>>>>> > have had issues for awhile due to bad capacitors that are a >>>>>>>> bigger job to >>>>>>>> > replace. We didn't have any identical PCs around sksp that I >>>>>>>> could use so >>>>>>>> > Ian >>>>>>>> > donated an old pair... that were from around the same era and >>>>>>>> turn out to >>>>>>>> > also >>>>>>>> > have bad capacitors. But those are better engineered (IBM) and >>>>>>>> easier to >>>>>>>> > recap. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The Shuttle PCs have been partially recapped (mobos and PSUs) but >>>>>>>> once I >>>>>>>> > move to the IBMs they may appear in the pile of doom if anyone >>>>>>>> wants them. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The fobs I've been giving out recently were PegJam ones that had >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> > activated when the PCs were still working... need to fix soon >>>>>>>> before I run >>>>>>>> > out. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Skullspace door: allowing landlord access and easy exit >>>>>>>> > --------- >>>>>>>> > I got a motion detector from eBay to allow auto-unlocking when >>>>>>>> > people get close to the door inside, but in the process of >>>>>>>> converting its >>>>>>>> > relay >>>>>>>> > from the positive terminal to connecting the negative terminal >>>>>>>> > I seem to have broken something since now it won't un-detect >>>>>>>> after boot. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Door access for landlord/staff without keyfob: may be possible to >>>>>>>> move the >>>>>>>> > current deadbolt to the "main" doorknob to make it work, but this >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> > far on my to-do list right now, or $500 to get done by a >>>>>>>> locksmith. >>>>>>>> > This would also allow exit without needing to push a button - >>>>>>>> preferable. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Another option people mentioned would be a keypad at the door >>>>>>>> that unlocks >>>>>>>> > the door - this is easy and cheap to do but I'd rather have the >>>>>>>> standard >>>>>>>> > key option. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Door remote control: would be nice to have; need to buy a copy of >>>>>>>> Kantech >>>>>>>> > Entrapass SE ($300, but I may be able to get a bit cheaper >>>>>>>> price). 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