There's lots of ends at Sksp, I'd welcome help running the cable, just need to go over the plan with you to make sure it's well-hidden. For the cables from the end of the classroom to above the bathrooms, white cable will be mostly hidden in the cracks between the roof boards using screwed-in zipties.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Ken DeWitt <[email protected] > wrote: > I just need ends > On 2013-03-27 6:26 PM, "Ian Trump" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Correct. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-03-27, at 18:15, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ian, >> >> I never brought up a cost or asked for money - the idea was that >> perhaps we could get the necessary cable run equipment as a donation, >> possibly from HSC. >> >> I thought that we can't expense anything to SkSp right now anyways, >> unless it's approved? >> >> >> On 27 March 2013 16:43, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Great Ken, way to step up very much appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just please be aware we have a minimal budget for this work. The >>> priority right now is to save for the needed electrical work and allow >>> Colin to complete his work on security and access control. I just >>> looked at our finances. >>> >>> >>> >>> The club is at 41 full member equivalents, we need 52 full >>> member equivalents to be sustainable. We are loosing -$460 approximatelyper >>> month, I am not counting donations above a 40.00 per full member >>> equivalent, because they are donations - they may go away at any >>> moment. Interestingly food and beverage sales manage to pay our monthly >>> Hydro bill (more or less). >>> >>> >>> >>> Current projections show "Death" on the 1'st of October 2014 if things >>> remained the same, which they won't and we would rally and not let that >>> happen. That's 18 months to get 11 full member equivalents and not >>> loose anyone along this way. >>> >>> >>> >>> When we get to 52 we can start looking at the nice to haves, right now >>> we must focus on the must haves. The 3D printer was deemed a must have >>> by the membership to attract more members. It was funded by the membership >>> outside of regular dues and donations. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, please let's be very careful about incurring expenses, we are very >>> close to complete sustainability. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> >>> >>> PS; Donations of time and materials are so important to the club bottom >>> line that stuff has a huge impact, a box of cable or stuff like that keeps >>> the "Day of Doom" far away. All of you who have put in sweat equity, >>> given equipment and "raw" IT material, or made financial contributionsabove >>> the 40.00 have really sustained the club - on behalf of the board you >>> have our sincere thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>> [email protected]] on behalf of Ken DeWitt [ >>> [email protected]] >>> *Sent:* March 27, 2013 16:23 >>> *To:* Skull Space Discussion List >>> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Skullspace2 Infrastructure update: >>> network, security, oh my! >>> >>> I can do all the wiring for the class room and comp areas. >>> On 2013-03-27 4:09 PM, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Ian, >>>> >>>> We were talking about running cat5 cable to the classroom and >>>> computer work areas long before the security camera job came into full >>>> swing... >>>> >>>> In the past, people have demonstrated a desire for having a wired >>>> internet hookup in these places. It would be beneficial. >>>> >>>> I'm not telling Colin he needs to do it, I'm asking what we need to >>>> do to get the ball rolling to obtain the cable trays to start. Currently, >>>> we have cat5 wiring running to the electrical bench and lounge via hanging >>>> wires - something which your inspector friend brought up as a no-no. >>>> >>>> I think we can all appreciate how hard Colin works for the group. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 March 2013 15:42, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to ask why these drops are needed? Given all the other >>>>> things Colin is working on can we give this request a low priority? >>>>> >>>>> For the sake of Colin's sanity let's balance some of these requests >>>>> in terms of priority. >>>>> >>>>> Let me put this another way. Until cameras and access control is >>>>> sorted out, would it not be reasonable to let him finish the jobs that are >>>>> started? let's let him breath. Invoice his customers for the 100's of side >>>>> jobs, etc he has completed over the past few months. >>>>> >>>>> Colin is working flat out and trying to run a business lets let him >>>>> finish some jobs before asking more of the guy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ian >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-03-27, at 15:33, "Justin Lacko" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What is required to start getting proper cat5 network drops to the >>>>> classroom? Colin, you mentioned we needed some cable tray system... who >>>>> can >>>>> we contact to supply us with this? >>>>> >>>>> High speed crow, perhaps? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 March 2013 08:45, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That is well in need of update for the new space... once I get the >>>>>> sksp wiki password from my old laptop (VNC not working, need to >>>>>> troubleshoot that) I'll put a notice on the page saying that. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you still maintaining the "Networking" wiki page? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-03-27 02:22, Colin Stanners wrote: >>>>>>> > So that everyone knows what I'm working on and can give >>>>>>> advice/comments. >>>>>>> > (Also so that I don't forget the details of all these...) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Wiring (following the 'harder/longer job = add more spare wires' >>>>>>> rule, and >>>>>>> > using >>>>>>> > white wires & white wire trays in corners so they're invisible to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> > landlord) >>>>>>> > ----------- >>>>>>> > Done: 6x wires from above-bathrooms to downstairs door: >>>>>>> > 1x cat5 + 1x 18/2: card access, doorbell >>>>>>> > 2x cat5: outside front door camera and either >>>>>>> inside front >>>>>>> > door or street camera >>>>>>> > 1x cat5 + 1x 18/2: spare wires (both above >>>>>>> cameras can be >>>>>>> > put on 1x cat5 to allow another spare). >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Done: 5x wires from server room to above-bathrooms: >>>>>>> > 1x 22/4 wire: card access serial control, maybe >>>>>>> patch to >>>>>>> > fire panel >>>>>>> > 2x cat5: to Sksp main network switch >>>>>>> > 1x cat5: VGAoverCAT5 so projector can show >>>>>>> security >>>>>>> > cams/other video from VGA splitter >>>>>>> > 1x cat5: 4x video feeds (2x front door, sksp2 >>>>>>> door, spare) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > In progress: 3x wires from above-bathroom to end of >>>>>>> classroom: >>>>>>> > 1x cat5: was going to be for flag cameras but I >>>>>>> may not >>>>>>> > install this one now >>>>>>> > 2x cat5: likely will connect back to main sksp >>>>>>> switch >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Doorbell >>>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>>> > It works and causes an annoying sound to come from the box above >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> > bathrooms - later I'll wire it so the bell will always ring when >>>>>>> the card >>>>>>> > access >>>>>>> > system's power is disconnected (may have enough battery power to >>>>>>> last hours) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Cameras (old analog models running 12-24v power and video over >>>>>>> cat5) >>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>> > 7: Both ends of the rear parking lot; back door (needs better >>>>>>> mount); >>>>>>> > elevator; >>>>>>> > outside Sksp2 door; outside front door; and either inside front >>>>>>> door or >>>>>>> > street. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > A PC - either Zewwy's nice donated machine or the active card >>>>>>> access PC - >>>>>>> > running 2x analog 4-input cards (currently the crappy $10 ones >>>>>>> that only do >>>>>>> > 2 >>>>>>> > FPS; possibly better ones later) and Zoneminder under Linux or >>>>>>> BlueIris or >>>>>>> > IspyConnect under Windows to capture video upon motion, also web >>>>>>> viewing. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I bought a 1x4 VGA splitter from Monoprice and eBay VGAoverCAT5 >>>>>>> adapters* >>>>>>> > so that the view from the security PC can be sent to the >>>>>>> currently-unused >>>>>>> > second VGA inputs on the projectors and can be easily brought up. >>>>>>> Of course >>>>>>> > any other signal can be sent to the projectors this way for >>>>>>> presentations >>>>>>> > etc. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > *I got the cheap $1 units that just couple the cables; not the >>>>>>> $100 units >>>>>>> > that include >>>>>>> > filters, converting the unbalanced signals to differential ones to >>>>>>> work >>>>>>> > better over >>>>>>> > twisted pair, and skew correction. I'll do homemade skew >>>>>>> correction by >>>>>>> > calculating >>>>>>> > the length of the cat5 and measuring some pairs a bit longer so >>>>>>> they all >>>>>>> > 'match' >>>>>>> > electrically. The length ratios of different pairs in cat5 are at >>>>>>> the end >>>>>>> > of the wikip page. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Projectors >>>>>>> > ----------- >>>>>>> > Sksp lounge: I'm getting the same MP stand so it can be >>>>>>> roof-mounted too >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Classroom: need to install wire guide to make power/VGA runs >>>>>>> nicer. If the >>>>>>> > power >>>>>>> > outlet over the bathroom happens soon it can feed the projector >>>>>>> instead of >>>>>>> > having >>>>>>> > an ugly wire run down the side of the classroom wall. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Both of these will have a line from the VGA splitter delivered >>>>>>> over cat5, >>>>>>> > as above. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Outside back wiring >>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>> > I installed a pipe in the back door frame so running wires is >>>>>>> super easy. >>>>>>> > Still >>>>>>> > would be good to install a pipe or guy wire to allow a nicer run >>>>>>> to top >>>>>>> > level of >>>>>>> > the fire escape and up to roof for later antennas (satellite, >>>>>>> amateur >>>>>>> > radio, etc). >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Internet access and link to AW >>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>> > We're still dependent on the AW link for internet, VOI needs time >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> > install a >>>>>>> > dedicated dish. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > We've had the hardware to upgrade the 10x4mbit AW link to >>>>>>> 100x100mbit >>>>>>> > since the beginning but it's quite a few hours to >>>>>>> setup/configure/install. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Network Monitoring >>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>> > Having a Linux box running MRTG to show the traffic on all switch >>>>>>> ports, >>>>>>> > maybe >>>>>>> > even local temperature and network rack power usage (measured at >>>>>>> UPSes). >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Doorbell and camera at outside loading dock door >>>>>>> > ---------- >>>>>>> > I'm considering this, does anything think it'll be useful? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Changing subnets >>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>> > Changing 192.168.1.x net to 172.16. would allow VPNing (from >>>>>>> Linksys >>>>>>> > routers etc). >>>>>>> > Also maybe separate the 'sksp' and 'wifi / public / untrusted' on >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> > networks. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Card access fixes >>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>> > Would be nice to have a button upstairs to remote open downstairs >>>>>>> door >>>>>>> > (next to the sksp phone?) easy to do but need to run a wire there, >>>>>>> or get >>>>>>> > one >>>>>>> > of those cheap ebay remote controls. Front door is missing a >>>>>>> sensor that >>>>>>> > lets the system know when the door is open because the door was >>>>>>> closing >>>>>>> > too tight against the frame for one to be installed (note hole in >>>>>>> door), >>>>>>> > fix soon. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Internal web page with links to all device web interfaces >>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>> > The one I did for AW is useful, will make one for Sksp one day >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Card access control PCs (both currently sitting in pieces) >>>>>>> > ----------- >>>>>>> > The Shuttle PCs (I always want 2 units with identical h/w, for >>>>>>> easy backup) >>>>>>> > have had issues for awhile due to bad capacitors that are a bigger >>>>>>> job to >>>>>>> > replace. We didn't have any identical PCs around sksp that I could >>>>>>> use so >>>>>>> > Ian >>>>>>> > donated an old pair... that were from around the same era and turn >>>>>>> out to >>>>>>> > also >>>>>>> > have bad capacitors. But those are better engineered (IBM) and >>>>>>> easier to >>>>>>> > recap. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > The Shuttle PCs have been partially recapped (mobos and PSUs) but >>>>>>> once I >>>>>>> > move to the IBMs they may appear in the pile of doom if anyone >>>>>>> wants them. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > The fobs I've been giving out recently were PegJam ones that had >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> > activated when the PCs were still working... need to fix soon >>>>>>> before I run >>>>>>> > out. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Skullspace door: allowing landlord access and easy exit >>>>>>> > --------- >>>>>>> > I got a motion detector from eBay to allow auto-unlocking when >>>>>>> > people get close to the door inside, but in the process of >>>>>>> converting its >>>>>>> > relay >>>>>>> > from the positive terminal to connecting the negative terminal >>>>>>> > I seem to have broken something since now it won't un-detect after >>>>>>> boot. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Door access for landlord/staff without keyfob: may be possible to >>>>>>> move the >>>>>>> > current deadbolt to the "main" doorknob to make it work, but this >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> > far on my to-do list right now, or $500 to get done by a locksmith. >>>>>>> > This would also allow exit without needing to push a button - >>>>>>> preferable. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Another option people mentioned would be a keypad at the door that >>>>>>> unlocks >>>>>>> > the door - this is easy and cheap to do but I'd rather have the >>>>>>> standard >>>>>>> > key option. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Door remote control: would be nice to have; need to buy a copy of >>>>>>> Kantech >>>>>>> > Entrapass SE ($300, but I may be able to get a bit cheaper price). >>>>>>> I got >>>>>>> > an old version of that software (Winpass64 from 2001) for $15 off >>>>>>> ebay to >>>>>>> > try it out but that software was *garbage* (Win3.1 interface, some >>>>>>> kind of >>>>>>> > constant database layer concurrency issues, horrible/illogical >>>>>>> design, etc.) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hooking access control to fire alarm for auto-release: >>>>>>> > ------------- >>>>>>> > Should be easily doable, I'll need to check if I can do it or if >>>>>>> we need >>>>>>> > someone with a license to come in and do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>>>>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>>>>> > Archive: >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>>>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>>>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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