THat came out nice! Good job!

Cheers!!

On Oct 4, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Jay Smith <jayvsm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did a little test tonight on hot swapping between ABS colours, and
> the results turned out pretty decently:
> 
> https://pic.twitter.com/0ybanbLmKP
> https://pic.twitter.com/61b6oqfnpJ
> 
> Note: These instructions assume that the ABS types are similar enough
> to have the same settings when generating gcode. The natural and black
> seemed to work fine with the settings we've been using so far.
> 
> 1) Print until you wish to change colours
> 2) Immediately enter the following commands: PAUSE - Reverse 4mm
> (approx) - Go up 40 units on the Z axis. The reverse is so you don't
> spill over what you've printed already
> 3) Replace the filament with your second colour
> 4) extrude 20mm to make sure the new roll is loaded, using a pair of
> needle-nose pliers to keep anything from dripping onto your model.
> 5) resume the print
> 6) There is no step 6
> 
> WARNING: Never return the head to home while the printer is paused!
> When the print resumes, it reverses every action you performed to get
> back into position. What's the reverse of going to Z-Home? Burrowing
> down into the center of the earth, that's what.
> 
> I had the print head crash into the bed today on account of the issue
> above - thankfully I had one hand on the kill switch. I re-taped and
> leveled the bed before printing again, it looks to be in perfect
> working order. Re-taping was probably overkill, but I figured it was
> time to clean it up a bit.
> 
> - Jay / @Sporked
> 
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Brian Kulyk <br...@kulyk.ca> wrote:
>> I just ordered us some more natural abs.
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Kulyk
>> 204.887.6988
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We left it mounted to the top to avoid having to update the firmware.
>>> 
>>> On 2013-10-02 8:16 AM, "Benjamin Bergman" <b...@benbergman.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot, guys! Just curious, is the switch still mounted at the
>>>> top, or did you try mounting the new switch at the bottom?
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Brian Kulyk <br...@kulyk.ca> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks to the amazing help from Stephan, Dr. West, Aemilianus and Thor
>>>>> we
>>>>> managed to get the new mechanical switch in place and homing properly.
>>>>> It
>>>>> looks to be working great and people should be able to use the printer
>>>>> again, but it looks like the print bed will require some additional
>>>>> leveling.  Small parts in the center of the bed should be fine, but you
>>>>> may
>>>>> experience warping in larger parts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks again to everyone who has helped get the printer running again!
>>>>> Amazing team work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian Kulyk
>>>>> 204.887.6988
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Brian Kulyk <br...@kulyk.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I bought one this afternoon, I will bring it to the meeting today.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brian Kulyk
>>>>>> 204.887.6988
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I believe there are some at the space(can anyone confirm). If not I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> some at home. I can stop there and grab a couple on my way to the
>>>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2013-10-01 2:33 PM, "Benjamin Bergman" <b...@benbergman.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ya, I think my vote is for the microswitch as well, but I'll toss a
>>>>>>>> couple hall effect sensors in with my order so we can fix up the
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> board in case we want to use it again. Do we have extra
>>>>>>>> microswitches,
>>>>>>>> or should I grab a few of those too?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I think a micro switch (as picture in the link in the IRC
>>>>>>>>> conversation) will work fine. We could use an opto-interupter (
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.jameco.com/1/1/25649-h21a1-opto-electronic-interrupter-switch-transistor-sensors.html
>>>>>>>>> ) if we want to get fancy but I think a microswitch will work just
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2013-10-01 1:48 PM, "Brian Kulyk" <br...@kulyk.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I was looking on Digikey for the sensor we need and noticed many
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> versions so I decided to contact Maker's Tool Works to find out
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> specifics of the sensor they used.  They (as well as the folks on
>>>>>>>>>> IRC)
>>>>>>>>>> suggest using a mechanical switch.   Eventually I found that this
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> part we need if we want to continue using the hall effect sensor.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/TLE4905L%20E6433/TLE4905LE6433INCT-ND/1650234
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If we decide to order these we should get a few backups.  Ben,
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> too late to combine with your order that would be great.  I can
>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> some cash for the order tonight at the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ME:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have broken the sensor off of the "Cheep O" board. I would
>>>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>>>> another one from you, but the store appears to be about can I
>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> some additional information about the sensor so I can order a
>>>>>>>>>>> replacement
>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maker's Tool Works
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately we are not expecting to have them back in stock
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> quiet a
>>>>>>>>>>> while. You're kit should have another mechanical endstop. All
>>>>>>>>>>> current kits
>>>>>>>>>>> do not have a cheap-o and we are finding the mechanical just as
>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
>>>>>>>>>>> The Cheap-o hall endsop is designed by BLDDK, I have seen one
>>>>>>>>>>> clone
>>>>>>>>>>> online
>>>>>>>>>>> and some diy versions on thingiverse.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I found that I can order a replacement board from here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.elecfreaks.com/store/hall-endstop-p-654.html  Though
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> does look
>>>>>>>>>> a little different they are both based off the BLDDK's design.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Chat log from IRC:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:48] <grumpy> I broke the sensor off of my cheap-o hall z
>>>>>>>>>>>> endstop.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anybody tell me where I can order a replacement (the
>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>> store is
>>>>>>>>>>>> sold out).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:48] <skywurz> grumpy i too did that
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:48] <skywurz> grumpy i dont like that sensor
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:49] <grumpy> skywurz what are you using now?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:49] <skywurz> grumpy may i recommend
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wuala.com/skywurz/Public/IMG_20130519_122911.jpg/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:51] <grumpy> skywurz I was thinking of going with something
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> that, but others were worried that it might not be as accurate
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hall-effect thing, I take you are not having any troubles with
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:51] <skywurz> grumpy it really does not make that much of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:52] <skywurz> think about how far off you could have thrown
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap-o off by bumping the sensor
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:54] <grumpy> skywurz Sounds good I will give it shot.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>> printed off a bracket to use a switch like that anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:54] <skywurz> never answered my imagineer question
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:54] <skywurz> grumpy sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [11:54] <skywurz> grumpy if you have no interest in saving the
>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>>>>>> o you can re use the wires on it
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Brian Kulyk
>>>>>>>>>> 204.887.6988
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Benjamin Bergman
>>>>>>>>>> <b...@benbergman.ca>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I just took a look at the sensor and I doubt it can be
>>>>>>>>>>> resoldered. I
>>>>>>>>>>> was about to get some stuff from digikey, so we can toss a few
>>>>>>>>>>> sensors
>>>>>>>>>>> into that order as well. Shipping isn't much and it arrives
>>>>>>>>>>> fast.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> just not sure when our order is going out (should be this week
>>>>>>>>>>> though).
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Brian Kulyk <br...@kulyk.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just broke off the board, one of the leads is now really
>>>>>>>>>>>> small.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> might be able to solder it back together, but it's beyond my
>>>>>>>>>>>> skill
>>>>>>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I found a mount for a physical switch on thingiverse, we could
>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> until the new sensor gets here or until someone with more
>>>>>>>>>>>> skill
>>>>>>>>>>>> than I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> re-solder the old one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Kulyk
>>>>>>>>>>>> 204.887.6988
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Stefan H.A
>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah that will likely work. I've been looking for a schematic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> board to ensure the hall effect sensor is the same as the one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sold at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparkfun but can't seem to find it using my phone though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odds
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are equivalent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the actual sensor break or did it just break off the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> broke off the board maybe we can reattach it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-28 2:19 PM, "Brian Kulyk" <br...@kulyk.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately maker stool works is out of the "Cheap-O Hall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Endstop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sensor".  Perhaps I can just order a new sensor from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparkfun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solder it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onto the existing board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Kulyk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 204.887.6988
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Stefan H.A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are ordering something from makerstoolworks.com maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see if anything changed from the beta kit we got and have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shipment. Also I think there were some parts that were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original kit we might like to get replaced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-28 1:37 PM, "Stefan H.A" <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are going to use the 'peice of paper' method you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homing lines from custom gcode section of the slicer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beleive the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate lines are g28 and g92 z183.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-28 1:30 PM, "Stefan H.A" <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We got the end stop with the kit. A replacement should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from makerstoolworks.com. A microswitch could also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can figure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to attach it. In the mean time we can still use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "piece
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of paper"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of zeroing. If you need a refresher check old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revisions of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should not have happened. Is it possible the endstop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected? I suppose the firmware could have gone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it froze up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that is why it didn't obey the endstop. In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably completely power down and disconnect the usb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recovering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a crash to ensure the firmware gets reset. This now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonder if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the freezing problem is caused by the firmware and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should see if any other user are reporting this and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more recent version of the Marlin firmware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-28 1:05 PM, "Brian Kulyk" <br...@kulyk.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somehow I managed to break the z axis end-stop sensor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printing this morning, and the print failed.  I hit the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnect, and reconnected to the printer then hit the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> z
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could remove the failed print. The z axis did NOT stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kept going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and broke a little black piece off of the z end-stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone can tell me where we got the sensor from I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or order us another one as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Kulyk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 204.887.6988
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Stefan H.A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I think slowing down more and using the fan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less(read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never) is the solution to the cracks we are getting in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-27 3:12 PM, "d-_-b"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <thor.robin...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Parts with fine detail can be run with a lower minimum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default 10mm/s ). we ran the second triforce at 1mm/s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed and that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a tad low, but gave us excellent detail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Stefan H.A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added some useful links to the tuning section of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on the 'too cold'  section of the trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beleive we are cooling the part too much with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fan. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printing with ABS the fan should remain off unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary (ie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very short layers). Thinking back to the triforce, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the very top where the layers were taking only few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-26 12:14 AM, "Stefan H.A"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be advised, I changed the infill patern to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honeycomb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alarmed if the printer appears to have a convulsion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printing infill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do keep an eye out for screws coming loose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also set it to print a solid layer every 40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings should increase part strength considerably.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-24 3:39 PM, "Benjamin Bergman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <b...@benbergman.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The second one I linked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:124533) is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically a proper version of the one that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cobbled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago that we are currently using. No disassembly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would have been nice if all their end plates had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutouts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t-nuts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be inserted, like the main back plate has. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things way easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Stefan H.A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depending where the bracket attaches, the printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be partially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disassembled to add the t-nuts into the channels
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that may be the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case for the top most screw). I have been looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution that only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs t-nuts in accessable channels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-24 3:09 PM, "Brian Kulyk"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <br...@kulyk.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the first one Ben suggested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:77301/#remixes)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Kulyk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 204.887.6988
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Benjamin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bergman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <b...@benbergman.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few more options (all designed to attach to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MendelMax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.0):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:77301/#remixes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:124533
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:78741
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Stefan H.A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would probably work but a stand alone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take more space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brackets I posted look like they could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-24 11:32 AM, "d-_-b"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <thor.robin...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:52927 <-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Stefan H.A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some interesting and helpful links I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surfing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thingiverse and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reprap wiki.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This might work for a spool holder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:63431
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some info about abs and pla. Note the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding print
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://reprap.org/wiki/ABS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://reprap.org/wiki/PLA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marlin firmware's home page which includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implimented G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ErikZalm/Marlin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-08-28 1:00 PM, "Aemilianus Kehler"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <zew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid huffer, why don't you learn to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Justin Lacko
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course I huffed it all! How else could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "trip" to "Denmark"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27 August 2013 23:59, Jim MacKenzie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <protoj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He probably huffed it all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2013 4:58 PM, "Roswyne"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rosw...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin had a 1L tin of it, IIRC. I doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Denmark!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2013 4:26 PM, "Stefan H.A"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking it might be good to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for all things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer so I am starting one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI - I won't be able to make it to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the meeting, not sure when though. My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cousin is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visiting from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iceland and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she is interested in seeing the 3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be bringing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her along.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I hope to pick up some nail polish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (acetone) to
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the print bed and maybe checking out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heated
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it has
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) thor.robinson;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) icon/phreshlyspun/ppca/skullspace
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