Like Alex said, if a member is present, it's free. If nobody is a sksp member and they want to use the space, it's still free, provided it fits with our goals (ie, no cross burning) but they need a member to babysit them. It's usually easy to find a volunteer.
The more non-members who show up, the more we encourage a group to donate to us, or have an option entrance fee. But we don't enforce it. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote: > Free, as in money? We've never mandated any cost to use SkullSpace's > facilities. As long as a member is present, it's free. Period. > > > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ric Lim <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Somewhat related to this. Is our policy for classroom use still free >> for a group meeting with member(s) who are part of Skullspace? >> >> On 5/7/14, R Rodd <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Sounds great, Theo - I'm in! >> > >> > "More learning? Yes please!" >> > On May 7, 2014 2:15 PM, "Theo Baschak" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> I have been prepping an "afternoon IPv6 workshop" since BSides >> basically, >> >> for a hackathon or perhaps even its own event. Oriented to network >> guys, >> >> server dudes, and perhaps even programmers, who want to be more aware >> of >> >> and get familiar (yes, hands on) with IPv6. Some of the topics: >> >> Addressing/Subnetting, new concepts (SLAAC, ULA, privacy addressing), >> >> v4/v6 >> >> rough equivalencies where they exist and the differences from v4, NO >> NEED >> >> FOR NAT (but you still can), what IPv6 looks/works like for home users, >> >> to >> >> name a few. >> >> >> >> There has been some interest expressed by others in both putting this >> on, >> >> and also in attending such a talk/workshop. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Theo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 7, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Robert Keizer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I'd be interested in doing a design 101 course.. and I imagine that >> >> > with a little advertising lots of people would also attend. >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> That course was really exciting to me for the reason you mentioned, >> it >> >> ties >> >> >> the fundamental hardware concepts all the way to the software. The >> >> >> only >> >> >> thing we need to make sure of is that the test answers don't get out >> >> online. >> >> >> They use this in universities, so having homework answers online is >> a >> >> >> problem. >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 3, 2014 1:37 PM, "R Rodd" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I could teach that course for you, Rylaan, or co-teach as I know we >> >> have >> >> >>> several members skilled in the material covered by it and likely >> more >> >> than a >> >> >>> few interested in teaching it. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The video you linked mentioned it being a 12 week structure - I'm >> >> >>> game >> >> for >> >> >>> doing it over the summer but when would be best for yourself and >> >> >>> other >> >> >>> potential participants? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> From the description in the video it is exactly the kind of course >> >> >>> that >> >> >>> should have been in my Comp. Eng. program in 2nd or 3rd year to >> "tie >> >> it all >> >> >>> together" .. fortunately for me I was doing similar projects in >> high >> >> school >> >> >>> and through the IEEE student group on campus. Those projects gave >> >> context >> >> >>> to the abstract theories covered in class. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> - Richard >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On May 3, 2014 12:14 PM, "Rylaan Gimby" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I have a Graphic Design 101 course that I've been planning for >> >> >>>> years. >> >> >>>> Maybe it's time to put it on. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I also just received the teaching materials for this course, >> >> >>>> http://www.nand2tetris.org/ I don't know if I have the technical >> >> abilities >> >> >>>> to put it on though, since I would be learning myself. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Adrian Stoness >> >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> id be down for that rhinoceros corse been yrs since i last looked >> >> >>>>> ath >> >> >>>>> that program >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> on another note justing i got a photo going up at this >> >> >>>>> >> http://www.labiennale.org/en/architecture/news/25-01.html?back=true >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> We may not be fully sustainable on our own yet, but I think that >> >> with >> >> >>>>>> each passing month we are getting closer and closer to that >> goal. >> >> In the >> >> >>>>>> time since I've left I've seen many new names be added to the >> list >> >> of >> >> >>>>>> members. I think there would be cause for concern if that wasn't >> >> happening, >> >> >>>>>> but it is. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> As Mark said, SkSp will always be about people donating their >> time >> >> (and >> >> >>>>>> their money) to the continuation of the space. But this is a >> >> >>>>>> proven >> >> business >> >> >>>>>> model for orgs such as ours and I think we should continue to >> >> embrace it. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> I think I mentioned it in the past that in my experience of >> >> >>>>>> sitting >> >> on >> >> >>>>>> a different board, that organization met at a semi-private >> school. >> >> Each time >> >> >>>>>> we had a meeting, we made a resolution to donate $40 or >> something >> >> to the >> >> >>>>>> school, in exchange for letting us use their facilities. That >> >> >>>>>> board >> >> had >> >> >>>>>> money in the bank, so I wouldn't expect it from every org that >> >> >>>>>> uses >> >> our >> >> >>>>>> space, but I think it's the right attitude towards using our >> >> >>>>>> space. >> >> A >> >> >>>>>> gentle, non-direct request for donations in exchange for our >> >> facilities >> >> >>>>>> wouldn't hurt anybody - and nobody would be obliged to donate if >> >> they >> >> >>>>>> couldn't/didn't want to. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> As much as there's shared worries about the financial future of >> >> >>>>>> the >> >> >>>>>> space, it seems like we are on the right track, and now is the >> >> >>>>>> time >> >> to >> >> >>>>>> re-focus our sustainability strategies on growing our membership >> >> base >> >> >>>>>> through value-added content, like workshops and circuit-bending >> >> nights and >> >> >>>>>> everything else. In the future, it would be greatly satisfying >> to >> >> see a >> >> >>>>>> calendar with an event/workshop almost every night - everything >> >> >>>>>> from >> >> >>>>>> hacker-themed cooking classes to PGP how-tos to CTFs etc etc - >> >> >>>>>> that >> >> will be >> >> >>>>>> the draw for people to join and donate their time. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> If I'm around in August, feel free to put me down for a >> >> multi-evening >> >> >>>>>> course teaching Rhinoceros 3D modeling and VRay rendering >> skills! >> >> I'll help >> >> >>>>>> out with SkSp however I can. And of course Friday night movie >> >> nights :) >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> -Justin >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> On 3 May 2014 01:33, Mark Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> I'm very pleased to hear that a portion of the fees were paid >> to >> >> SkSp >> >> >>>>>>>> as >> >> >>>>>>>> a thank-you for using the space. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> I see it more than just thank-you but as respectful rent >> decided >> >> >>>>>>> on >> >> >>>>>>> upfront -- if she's making money teaching to mostly non-members >> >> then >> >> >>>>>>> Skullspace deserves a cut for its contribution. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> It's different if is someone is charging money for a >> members-only >> >> >>>>>>> workshop (then Skullspace needs no rent as Skullspace is >> getting >> >> value by a >> >> >>>>>>> member specific or member discounted service being delivered) >> or >> >> if the room >> >> >>>>>>> is used by something like a usergroup (where nobody is getting >> >> paid). >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> For usergroups with hacker worthy subject matter, we might not >> >> want to >> >> >>>>>>> go as far as asking rent, but to make a requirement that they >> >> circulate a >> >> >>>>>>> collection donation cup/hat/pot to their attendees each time >> they >> >> use the >> >> >>>>>>> room. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Even our internal events with non-members showing up should >> >> include a >> >> >>>>>>> good cup passing beg moment when we've got the crowd in our >> >> >>>>>>> palms. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> >>>>>>> Help: >> >> >>>>>>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> >>>>>>> Archive: >> >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> >>>>>> Help: >> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> >>>>>> Archive: >> >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> >>>>> Help: >> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> >>>>> Archive: >> >> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >>>> Rylaan >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> >>>> Help: >> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> >>>> Archive: >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> >>> Archive: >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> >> Archive: >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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