Also, if the group is charging attendees a fee, I would more strongly suggest a donation be made to SkSp. :)
On May 7, 2014 8:35 PM, "Ron Bowes" <[email protected]> wrote: > Like Alex said, if a member is present, it's free. If nobody is a sksp > member and they want to use the space, it's still free, provided it fits > with our goals (ie, no cross burning) but they need a member to babysit > them. It's usually easy to find a volunteer. > > The more non-members who show up, the more we encourage a group to donate > to us, or have an option entrance fee. But we don't enforce it. > > > > > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Free, as in money? We've never mandated any cost to use SkullSpace's >> facilities. As long as a member is present, it's free. Period. >> >> >> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ric Lim <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Somewhat related to this. Is our policy for classroom use still free >>> for a group meeting with member(s) who are part of Skullspace? >>> >>> On 5/7/14, R Rodd <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Sounds great, Theo - I'm in! >>> > >>> > "More learning? Yes please!" >>> > On May 7, 2014 2:15 PM, "Theo Baschak" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I have been prepping an "afternoon IPv6 workshop" since BSides >>> basically, >>> >> for a hackathon or perhaps even its own event. Oriented to network >>> guys, >>> >> server dudes, and perhaps even programmers, who want to be more aware >>> of >>> >> and get familiar (yes, hands on) with IPv6. Some of the topics: >>> >> Addressing/Subnetting, new concepts (SLAAC, ULA, privacy addressing), >>> >> v4/v6 >>> >> rough equivalencies where they exist and the differences from v4, NO >>> NEED >>> >> FOR NAT (but you still can), what IPv6 looks/works like for home >>> users, >>> >> to >>> >> name a few. >>> >> >>> >> There has been some interest expressed by others in both putting this >>> on, >>> >> and also in attending such a talk/workshop. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Theo >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On May 7, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Robert Keizer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > I'd be interested in doing a design 101 course.. and I imagine that >>> >> > with a little advertising lots of people would also attend. >>> >> > >>> >> > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> That course was really exciting to me for the reason you >>> mentioned, it >>> >> ties >>> >> >> the fundamental hardware concepts all the way to the software. The >>> >> >> only >>> >> >> thing we need to make sure of is that the test answers don't get >>> out >>> >> online. >>> >> >> They use this in universities, so having homework answers online >>> is a >>> >> >> problem. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On May 3, 2014 1:37 PM, "R Rodd" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> I could teach that course for you, Rylaan, or co-teach as I know >>> we >>> >> have >>> >> >>> several members skilled in the material covered by it and likely >>> more >>> >> than a >>> >> >>> few interested in teaching it. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> The video you linked mentioned it being a 12 week structure - I'm >>> >> >>> game >>> >> for >>> >> >>> doing it over the summer but when would be best for yourself and >>> >> >>> other >>> >> >>> potential participants? >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> From the description in the video it is exactly the kind of course >>> >> >>> that >>> >> >>> should have been in my Comp. Eng. program in 2nd or 3rd year to >>> "tie >>> >> it all >>> >> >>> together" .. fortunately for me I was doing similar projects in >>> high >>> >> school >>> >> >>> and through the IEEE student group on campus. Those projects gave >>> >> context >>> >> >>> to the abstract theories covered in class. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> - Richard >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> On May 3, 2014 12:14 PM, "Rylaan Gimby" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> I have a Graphic Design 101 course that I've been planning for >>> >> >>>> years. >>> >> >>>> Maybe it's time to put it on. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> I also just received the teaching materials for this course, >>> >> >>>> http://www.nand2tetris.org/ I don't know if I have the technical >>> >> abilities >>> >> >>>> to put it on though, since I would be learning myself. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Adrian Stoness >>> >> >>>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >>>> wrote: >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> id be down for that rhinoceros corse been yrs since i last >>> looked >>> >> >>>>> ath >>> >> >>>>> that program >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> on another note justing i got a photo going up at this >>> >> >>>>> >>> http://www.labiennale.org/en/architecture/news/25-01.html?back=true >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> We may not be fully sustainable on our own yet, but I think >>> that >>> >> with >>> >> >>>>>> each passing month we are getting closer and closer to that >>> goal. >>> >> In the >>> >> >>>>>> time since I've left I've seen many new names be added to the >>> list >>> >> of >>> >> >>>>>> members. I think there would be cause for concern if that >>> wasn't >>> >> happening, >>> >> >>>>>> but it is. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> As Mark said, SkSp will always be about people donating their >>> time >>> >> (and >>> >> >>>>>> their money) to the continuation of the space. But this is a >>> >> >>>>>> proven >>> >> business >>> >> >>>>>> model for orgs such as ours and I think we should continue to >>> >> embrace it. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> I think I mentioned it in the past that in my experience of >>> >> >>>>>> sitting >>> >> on >>> >> >>>>>> a different board, that organization met at a semi-private >>> school. >>> >> Each time >>> >> >>>>>> we had a meeting, we made a resolution to donate $40 or >>> something >>> >> to the >>> >> >>>>>> school, in exchange for letting us use their facilities. That >>> >> >>>>>> board >>> >> had >>> >> >>>>>> money in the bank, so I wouldn't expect it from every org that >>> >> >>>>>> uses >>> >> our >>> >> >>>>>> space, but I think it's the right attitude towards using our >>> >> >>>>>> space. >>> >> A >>> >> >>>>>> gentle, non-direct request for donations in exchange for our >>> >> facilities >>> >> >>>>>> wouldn't hurt anybody - and nobody would be obliged to donate >>> if >>> >> they >>> >> >>>>>> couldn't/didn't want to. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> As much as there's shared worries about the financial future of >>> >> >>>>>> the >>> >> >>>>>> space, it seems like we are on the right track, and now is the >>> >> >>>>>> time >>> >> to >>> >> >>>>>> re-focus our sustainability strategies on growing our >>> membership >>> >> base >>> >> >>>>>> through value-added content, like workshops and circuit-bending >>> >> nights and >>> >> >>>>>> everything else. In the future, it would be greatly satisfying >>> to >>> >> see a >>> >> >>>>>> calendar with an event/workshop almost every night - everything >>> >> >>>>>> from >>> >> >>>>>> hacker-themed cooking classes to PGP how-tos to CTFs etc etc - >>> >> >>>>>> that >>> >> will be >>> >> >>>>>> the draw for people to join and donate their time. >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> If I'm around in August, feel free to put me down for a >>> >> multi-evening >>> >> >>>>>> course teaching Rhinoceros 3D modeling and VRay rendering >>> skills! >>> >> I'll help >>> >> >>>>>> out with SkSp however I can. And of course Friday night movie >>> >> nights :) >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> -Justin >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> On 3 May 2014 01:33, Mark Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> I'm very pleased to hear that a portion of the fees were >>> paid to >>> >> SkSp >>> >> >>>>>>>> as >>> >> >>>>>>>> a thank-you for using the space. >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> I see it more than just thank-you but as respectful rent >>> decided >>> >> >>>>>>> on >>> >> >>>>>>> upfront -- if she's making money teaching to mostly >>> non-members >>> >> then >>> >> >>>>>>> Skullspace deserves a cut for its contribution. >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> It's different if is someone is charging money for a >>> members-only >>> >> >>>>>>> workshop (then Skullspace needs no rent as Skullspace is >>> getting >>> >> value by a >>> >> >>>>>>> member specific or member discounted service being delivered) >>> or >>> >> if the room >>> >> >>>>>>> is used by something like a usergroup (where nobody is getting >>> >> paid). >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> For usergroups with hacker worthy subject matter, we might not >>> >> want to >>> >> >>>>>>> go as far as asking rent, but to make a requirement that they >>> >> circulate a >>> >> >>>>>>> collection donation cup/hat/pot to their attendees each time >>> they >>> >> use the >>> >> >>>>>>> room. >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> Even our internal events with non-members showing up should >>> >> include a >>> >> >>>>>>> good cup passing beg moment when we've got the crowd in our >>> >> >>>>>>> palms. >>> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>>>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> >>>>>>> Help: >>> >> >>>>>>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> >>>>>>> Archive: >>> >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> >>>>>> Help: >>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> >>>>>> Archive: >>> >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> >>>>> Help: >>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> >>>>> Archive: >>> >> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> -- >>> >> >>>> Rylaan >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> >>>> Help: >>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> >>>> Archive: >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> >>> Help: >>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> >>> Archive: >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> >> Archive: >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> > Archive: >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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