Mnyb;670112 Wrote: > This statement is bizzare ! > > " > > So you confirm that in its current state, this product cannot be > > suitable for wide audience, without dedicated computer aware staff > to > > install and support the system. > > With the price it costs, which may exceed the devices price, does it > ? > > > > Otherwise they have to stick to very basic use (streaming internet > > radios for example), which is most customers do. > > " > > People have computers and people have wifi and network and routers > BEFORE adding a squeezebox to it . > > And have been ripping CD's before for use on their PC . Or frankly been > stealing tons of files with p2p software for ages. > > You are implying that so called normal people can't operate their own > computers (install a program, for example squeezeboxserver) . > > Nor can they use their own router or add clients to their own network > (for example follow the instructions on a Radio/Touch to make it > connect ) > > And the the impossible task of putting a CD in the "cup holder" . > > And you deliberately misinterpret parts of what shaboyi tries to tell > us. > > An observation , custom installs is not for for everyone these kind of > clients obviously have money and are not at all interested in some diy > to make this fly, they have more profitable things to do with their > busy life. > > A person with more time than money can do this for himself, with some > care it actually works. > > People are not imbeciles I have observed them driving cars operating > heavy machinery using computers in their work etc. > > Regarding "very basic use" > > Many people would be quite satisfied with just a spotify or pandora > machine , not all people have music collections these days or if you > are uniterested in sq you find it faster on spotify than in your own CD > pile anyway . > > Streaming services is the great time saver for non hifi people , the > hours I spent tinkering with the system pales in comparison to the time > used to rip thousands of CD's . > > I think someone only wanting the "very basic use" of streaming service > realize this, a couple of hours on a weekend wasted but you suddenly > saves 100's of hours not having to rip your scratched cd's and what > about the warped vinyl and old cassettes . > > And there is of-course problems a lot of them , but the basic > architecture is ok . > > A problem some won't admitt to is the "unreliable scanning" is in > reality that all the files you downloaded with p2p are tagged by > cretins, such a collection would of-course be a horrible mess and not > usable by any other way than "music folder" it often looks very odd in > album or artist ;)
You simply missed the most important part of my post. Which is people are not necesseraly stupid or imbecile (should I point out that YOU misinterpret what I said ?) They simply do not accept to loose time with unreliable products or weird interface, only acceptable when you have a geek or nerd way of thinking. And in that respect, I do think they are much smarter than geeks or nerds. I can deal with computers, I do develop softwares much more complicated than LMS. I am like the vast majority of Logitech target market (tech aware or not). I don't want to mess with geek behavior, because computers and softwares are not a hobby, there are tools. This market DEMAND stuff reliable and easy to install. SBS/LMS is not, a bunch of customers say so. One should not blame tags or artwork when LMS crashes (it almost never happened to me, but it does happen a lot for many customers), nor loosing time fixing tags if they don't care about them. Why ? Because this is not acceptable, and no other popular music software crash with bad or stupid artwork, leaving the customers with unusable library. Forcing people to fix their artwork IS stupid (except as a TEMPORARY workaround until the mandatory LMS fix is done). The only acceptable solution is 2 mandatory things : - Allow people to suppress ANY kind of scan if they want. - Make the scanner "bad-artwork-and-bad-tagging-proof" Check MediaMonkey if you don't understand what it means. It is not because a few dozens of geeks on a forum say those customers are wrong (or stupid), and that their one-armed blind 110 years old grandfather, or their six month baby little sister, installed LMS with their right foot, while developping a funny perl plugin with the left big toe, use it without trouble, are happy with it, and so that everybody should be happy, that those few dozens of geeks are right. Logitech target market, those who pay for the devices, hifi dealers choosing a product to sell it in order to make a living (not spending their time writing on a forum that customers are stupid because the product is so great), those people, some tech-aware, some others not, say that in its current state, those products are not reliable and easy to use for wide audience. Fortunately it seems that Logitech CEO has figured out that. With a little hope, this may be easily corrected. Aknowledge that a software like MediaMonkey is years ahead LMS as far as files selection, library management, and scanning reliability are concerned (anybody not convinced should seriously try). Make LMS behave more or less the same way for those functionalities. This would solve more than 3/4 of squeezeboxes customers problems ... -- nicolas75 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
