PasTim wrote: 
> If we accuse the BBC of unnecessary secrecy, and then indulge ourselves
> in the same habits we are as bad as they are.  They say they are
> defending themselves, ditto here.
> 
> I can't be party to such hypocrisy for ever, 

I'm sorry but I really don't understand what you are banging on about.
You requested advice and, in good faith, we gave it - with reasons. What
you do with that advice is your business. Some of us have simply said
that we think that, at this stage in our very "asymmetrical
negotiations" with the BBC, we may have more to lose than to gain by
alerting the BBC to the RTMP streams. 

As for hypocrisy - where on earth does that come into it? The BBC is
withholding information which would allow its paying audience to listen
to its output - whilst telling everyone what a splendid job it's doing.
Their withholding of information is detrimental to listeners. We are
simply trying to get back the service we have paid for - well those of
us in the UK anyway. Firstly, we don't know the validity of the "RTMP
stream information" and secondly, any blagging on our part long lines of
"Hey Auntie, we know something about RTMP which you don't" can merely
result further degradation of our services. Some of us would regard that
as counter-productive.

Therefore, I'm not sure what good your somewhat "holier than thou"
approach would achieve but, no doubt, you'll do as your conscience, or
ego, dictates. 

You are not alone in feeling a little delicate about all this - many of
us have wasted far too much of our time on it over the past six weeks.
I'd much rather be doing something else but, perhaps like you, I believe
this is a battle worth fighting, especially on behalf of those less
technically able than ourselves. 

We have precious little leverage with the BBC so shouldn't squander what
little we have - or get sidetracked with internal squabbles.

Rant Over!


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