JJZolx;289320 Wrote: 
> Jeezus, you're tearing yourself up over this...

you know jim, i don't understand the point of a comment like that.

all i am trying to do is get something fixed, something that has NEVER
worked right for me since i got my first slim stuff 3 years ago or
whatever it was.

on the one hand, people say "nothing should be done until something is
FULLY disscussed verbosely so we all know everything about an issue" on
the other hand, when i am verbose, i am either attacked or ignored or
both.

as someone who i have witnessed needlessly attacked for just expressing
their POV, it irks me you would do it to me.

JJZolx;289320 Wrote: 
> See snarlydwarf's explanation.  Once an audio file or album full of
> audio file's is scanned and the metadata entered in the server's
> database, it doesn't matter what type of file it was - Mp3, Flac, Ape,
> Ogg, WMA, etc.

i already understood that.

JJZolx;289320 Wrote: 
> They're all treated the same.  The trick is to scan the files correctly,
> and, with tagging systems not as flexible as those used for Flac, Ogg,
> and Ape, interpret tags as closely as possible to SqueezeCenter's
> internal tagging model.

i think SC7 should reflect the reality of peoples tags, not its own
desire for what it thinks is logical.

in other words, SC7 should realize that there will be a lot of users
like myself with all together normal tags in their mp3s that SC7 will
need to properly deal with AS IS.

if someone has tag problems, thats different.  people should clean up
and maintain good tags if they want good results.

but in the case of someone like me who has well maintained tags and is
using them properly, i expect SC7 to then do likewise.

JJZolx;289320 Wrote: 
> TPE2 is called "BAND" in a lot of applications.  Some applications even
> call it "Album Artist".  There's never been an option to sort by or
> group by BAND.

lets be absolutely clear here:

settings -> music library -> list albums by band.

you are saying that option is NOT meant to sort your music?

are you saying that SC7 by default always sorts by its own internal
ALBUMARTIST tag?  that thats what it does and there is no other
option?

JJZolx;289320 Wrote: 
> There _is_ an option to treat BAND as ALBUMARTIST.  My understanding is
> that this option is mostly to address how the TPE2 id3v2 frame is
> treated.

where is that option?

do you mean the first three checkboxes on the settings -> music library
page?  (it would be the third checkbox)

i would disagree that the point of those checkboxes is to fix this
issue, but either way, checked or unchecked, i still have the issue. 
(and yes, i did clear and rescans both ways)

read the info box for that option.   if it was to take my TPE2 tag and
use it to fill in the internal SC7 ALBUMARTIST tag, i think it would
say so.

here's what it says:

"Composer, Band and Orchestra in Artists
Song information about composers, bands and orchestras can be included
in the artists list for browsing and search."

i don't see that as anything other than 'SC7 will make this info
searchable.'

do you disagree?

i also don't see it as necessary since the TPE2 IS internally filling
the SC7 BAND tag, and enabling the checkbox makes the scan take
longer.

so if you are saying the checkbox makes it so that my TPE2 tags fill in
SC7s internal ALBUMARTIST tags, well, it doesn't.

JJZolx;289320 Wrote: 
> As far as I can tell, the only thing broken is the treatment of TPE2
> during scanning.  Addressed by this bug:
> 
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6490
> 
> The rest of it - sorting and grouping by ALBUMARTIST works pretty much
> as expected.

well, that "only thing" has screwed me for years, and my previous
attempts to address it on the forums (and i have tried at different
times) were shot down for a variety of reasons, but i did try...  fact
remains its screwed me for YEARS now.


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