MrSinatra;289369 Wrote: 
> wait a minute snarly...
> 
> the option in SC7 that says "List albums by Band" has this in the
> infobox:
> 
> "Albums that contain songs that are tagged with a band may be listed
> under that band name or with the other artists for that album. The band
> tag is also known as TPE2 and may appear as the "album artist" in some
> software."

No kidding?

Are you sure?

I mean, I just guessed and had -exactly- the same text in my post! 
What a coincidence!

> 
> now, lets be real here, when slim/logitech markets this thing to the
> public and uses that documentation above, they aren't expecting the
> public to read that and know anything, ANYTHING, about SC7s internal
> tags.

there is nothing in that sentence about internal tags.  Nor is Coke's
secret formula there.  So what?

> 
> it also would imply that TPE2 tags are enough to get SC7 to use this
> option properly.

No.

It would imply that BAND is called 'Album Artist' by some software. 
That is what it says.  It says "SOME SOFTWARE".  It does NOT say its
own name.

If I say, "some people pick their nose and eat the boogers"  that does
not mean that I do.  It means some people do.  It does not even imply
that I do.  If you say, "some people are idiots" are you calling
yourself an idiot?  I think not, I think you are quite capable of
leaving yourself out of the 'some people' group and not believing that
'some' is 'all'.  Certainly I say "some people are morons" all the
time, yet do not think of myself as one...

Why is SC any different?  Why when it says 'some' does it mean 'me'?

It could be slightly more clear if it said, "some other software," but
the implication that it was talking about other software is the way I
read it.  It knows how it works, if it meant itself, it would have said
it.

> 
> as i have pointed out, it only does HALF.  it displays the album as by
> the TPE2 tag, but it does not SORT by the TPE2 tag.

Right, and this is behavior is very nice with classical works.

> 
> and it seems to be because it does not use TPE2 to populate internal
> ALBUMARTIST tags, only internal BAND tags.
> 
> would you agree or disagree with that?

Since I said exactly the same thing earlier today, yes, of course I
agree with that.  I even posted the code that shows TPE2 goes to BAND.

> 
> also, would you agree or disagree that it SHOULD sort mp3s by TPE2 tags
> if the mp3 has the tag, one way or another?

No, actually, looking at my music, I would not.  I use TPE2 for
Orchestra on classical. 

> 
> the option is list by "Band" not list by "Album artist."  and the
> infobox for that option goes on to define "Band" as the TPE2 tag.
> 
> so this option should really have NOTHING to do with an INTERNAL SC7
> value of ALBUMARTIST anyway!

Really?  Look at the subject of this thread.  It does not say 'sort
album by TPE2'.  It does not say 'sort album by band'.  It says by
album artist.

It Does that.

As for what it has to do with ALBUMARTIST: I bet if you changed the
source in Slim::Formats::MP3.pm to map TPE2 -> ALBUMARTIST you would
have the behavior you wish.

Which is why it has everything to do with the ALBUMARTIST.  You are
trying to make BAND the same as ALBUMARTIST.

In honor of your name:

title: You And I
artist: Frank Sinatra
album: The Song Is You
track: 10/22
band: Tommy Dorsey

Is Tommy Dorsey the Album Artist?

Is the additional info of the band useful here?

> 
> agree or disagree?

With what?  With the thread title?  Sure, it should absolutely
positively sort by ALBUMARTIST.  It does.

It should not, as you claimed in the post I replied to, sort by BAND
under all circumstances.  That would not appease 'any and all mp3
users'.


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