Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > >the point is it doesn't sort properly and i have no way to get it to, > >with my tags remaining as is. and i think SC7 should fix this b/c my > >tags are how a LOT of people do their mp3 tags. i daresay the > >majority. > > What doesn't sort properly for you is adequate for the majority > already, otherwise there would have been a lot more noise by now.
i disagree. i think a lot of people just deal with it, meaning they can see something is wrong but put up with it, or they can see something is wrong and find a workaround. in the marketplace, would you deny that the majority is made up of mp3 users? out of that population, how many use a separate tagging program? not even close to 50%. most use winamp, WMP, itunes, etc... and this is how they work. Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > There may not be a fault, just a different way that you want it to work. well, if you can tell me how a MP3 user is supposed to get albums to sort properly when there is no way to do it without a separate tagging program and user defined fields, then i might agree. i don't really care about fault and blame, i just want it fixed, added, whatever so it'll sort by whats in my TPE2 field. Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > A lot of rippers won't set any ALBUMARTIST or BAND tag, and thus sorting > will be by ARTIST tag. This will be the majority of users. There may > be some people that have badly sorted artists, but I daresay the > majority don't bother with any sorting at all. i disagree. winamp, WMP and itunes all set that, [ie. tpe2, via gracenote or some similar service i think. not sure if EAC does or not]. in any case, autotaggers (in some of those apps) set it too. and those apps allow you to manually edit the field as well. and the question isn't who bothers with it and who doesn't, or concerns with sloppy tagging. the question is should SC7 handle defacto standards out there in a reasonable way? i think its obvious it should. Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > Most probably rip their albums and inherit whatever tags have been > defined in freedb, etc. That probably means they have inconsistencies, > spelling mistakes, etc. again, thats not the question. Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > They certainly won't have any specific ARTISTSORT tags to do proper > sorting. I recently ripped three Cranberries albums, and got "The > Cranberries", "Cranberries" and "Cranberries, The". and again, thats not the point. with an editor you can clean up sloppiness like that. what we are trying to address is not sloppiness, but rather reasonable expected behavior based on reasonable expectations. thats where defacto standards come into play. not sure what the point of this next section is, but i'll play along... Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > How many people go into a record shop and look for "Phil Collins" albums > under the P section? none, and whats the relevance? Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > How many look for Phil Collins under P in SqueezeCenter? a lot of people, b/c thats how their tags are. Philip Meyer;290093 Wrote: > How many add an ARTISTSORT="Collins, Phil"? > > Phil i have no idea, but i bet its not as many as you think it is. its all besides the point... my main point has been that SC7 should reflect the reality defacto standard that is out there, (just as it does the user defined tags of foobar, that are also a defacto standard). -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
