MrSinatra;290087 Wrote: > if the TPE2 tag was empty, then i would expect SC7 to use TPE1 to sort, > (which is what it does now with my stuff, unless its a VA album or an > album it THINKS is VA)
snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > Sure, eventually it may or may not display TPE1 if the file is an MP3. > If it is not an mp3, it will never display TPE1. we were talking about sorting, is that what you meant by display? i'm just confused by this whole sentence. what do you mean it may or may not display TPE1? i agree with the last line, please clarify the rest. snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > But that is not what you said. > > You said: > > > > > "You can choose what artist or tag information to use to show what > > artist an album is by. The first choice uses TPE1 tags, the second > > choice uses TPE2 tags. (TPE2 is also known as "Band" or "Album Artist" > > in some other software)."> > > > That does not describe what it does. keep in mind, i said CHOICE not CHECK. i think u were confused on that score. also, i have since offerred a revision for this explanation. "You can choose what artist or tag information to use to show what artist an album is by. The first choice uses TPE1 *(or Artist)* tags, the second choice uses TPE2 tags. (TPE2 is also known as "Band" or "Album Artist" in some other software)." i think the part in bold covers non mp3 users and since this is just a change to how the option and infobox is worded it would be completely transparent to users like you who already have things the way they want it. snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > 'useBand' unset (default): > 1) use ALBUMARTIST if ALBUMARTIST (again, not TPE1.. not even > ARTIST) > 2) (bunch of other stuff dependent on the compilation settings and > how compilations are grouped) > > 'useBand' set: > 1) use ALBUMARTIST if ALBUMARTIST (again, not TPE1.. not even > ARTIST) > 2) if BAND set, use BAND > 3) (bunch of other stuff dependent on the compilation settings and > how compilations are grouped) i think i follow that and i agree thats how it currently works, (the list albums by band option, set or unset). snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > Describing this in help information as applying to TPE1, TPE2 or any id3 > specific name is wrong. well, maybe you should tell slim that, b/c they already mention TPE2 for the infobox. i agree with what i think is slims POV on this, they do not want this option (list albums by band) or its infobox to be steeped in a technical discussion. i think my explanation accomplishes all worthy goals and ends without confusing anyone or changing anything other than wording. keep in mind, slim is not capitalizing band or even putting forth thats the convention they are using, they just say Band, mention TPE2 and album artist, and are extremely ambiguous. no question though, that the option as it currently works regards the internal BAND field. snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > It applies, again, to all filetypes, even those that do not have TPE1 or > TPE2 fields. true, thus the revision. snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > It also is incorrect in that it ignores the role of ALBUMARTIST, which > effectively overrides this setting if it is set. i was trying to stay close to what slim already had in place, making only minimal but necessary corrections. i agree with you though, but again thats for slim to figure out. (i mean, this criticism of yours could apply to whats there now, right?) snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > As for: > > Use of the 'COMPILATION' tag (or the non-standard iTunes TCMP) will let > it figure how you want it to handle a given compilation album. > > (Ie, the Sonny Bono album above, I want it filed specifically under > Sonny Bono. On an album like "Original Jazz Masters" I might it listed > under VA.) > > A decent tag editor lets me tell SC how to file these two albums, and > to handle them in entirely different manners. > > Winamp/WMP/iTunes are not decent taggers. i disagree. winamp lets me do what i want to do, and lets me edit all id3 standard tag fields i want to edit. i also don't want or need compilation tags, and i don't ever plan to employ them. snarlydwarf;290097 Wrote: > (Though, ironically, iTunes would let you set the compilation flag as > you desire, even if you think it sucks for everything else.) Find a > good tagger that lets you do everything you need so you don't have to > switch between taggers to accomplish anything. > > (How long would it be before you tossed the PC out the Window if Word > did Bold but not Underline and WordPerfect did Underline but not Bold, > so you had to keep switching between two pieces of software to write as > you wished? A good tagger should let you tag what you want, setting > sort orders, lyrics, as well as compilation, etc.) see, this i think is where you just aren't understanding where i am coming from. winamp DOES do everything i want done. my tags are ALREADY exactly the way i want them. its SC7 that is in need of an option, imo. my tags follow a defacto standard, that is no less a defacto standard than the way your tag editors set your user defined tags. but this isn't a personal matter... it isn't just "what i want." believe it or not, i am looking out for other users like me, as well as slim who i want to succeed like crazy. as it happens, i already use: EAC (and lame) Winamp WMP SC7 for various things. adding another program just to add tags i don't need except to provide a workaround to get SC7 to act in a reasonable way is NOT something i want to do or plan to do. moreover, i did not like foobar or mp3tag when i experimented with them. but MY feelings aren't the issue... i clearly represent a large portion of the mp3 marketplace, (as someone could clearly use winamp and nothing else) and i want such users who have reasonable expectations of SC7 to get reasonable results without having to figure out all this stuff, and then actually apply the knowledge via some tagging app. i don't see why i should have to defend this POV, it seems extremely reasonable to me. i just want a sorting option that will use my TPE2 data, given the marketplace reality, whats wrong with that? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
